Upstate NY--USA

Yes, I found it; it's just not accessible via the help button. Still would like to find a printed one though...it would cost me a fortune to print it off on my printer; I only have a photo printer.

Thanks, I'll check it out. I'd still rather have a printed manual but at this point almost anything's better than nothing at all!

Finally got it fixed. They say in the directions that "if you get an error" use WinRAR (a program I don't have)When it asked me to install the second CD I didn't equate that to getting an "error". Searching their database using "install" and "download" as keywords I did find that the files MUST be opened with WinRAR--that WinZip won't work for whatever reason. I installed the evaluation version of WinRAR and that opened it and allowed it to install without a hitch. Not really caring to spend $29 on WinRAR, I unzipped it (along with the extras) to a DVD and installed it from there. Now at least I don't have to worry about that particular problem again. I'm only going through this whole scenario now to help the next person who comes along with the same problem and doesn't want to wait 2 or more days for an answer to their tech question.

Thank you! Now it works perfectly! I have a manual for Bryce 4 but not for 5. I tried to read it, but found that I couldn't relate anything to anything so this is why I wanted to play around in the program a bit hoping it would make more sense once I had a basic idea of what I was going to be looking for (or at). The extent of my 3-D knowledge thus far is some 3-D text I've done with Ulead's Cool 3-D which is a far cry from Bryce! Once I get a bit of a feel for it, I can try some of the tutorials and compare things in the manual. Thanks again for your help, everyone!

I don't know where you live, but I'm near Syracuse NY. Purchased a brand new Bryce 4 (upgrade version) at a computer show for $99. It's a freestanding program - no prior version was required (luckily!) Now if I could just figure out how to use the darned thing! If there are computer shows where you live (we have them monthly) I would highly recommend it. I have purchased the "last version" of many programs this way. If you don't like it, you're not out that much and if you do like it you can get a break on the upgrade in most instances.