Please let me know, too. Many thanks. Frisketus

Haven't tried it yet but sounds like I ought to. Real Draw-Pro 2.2 30 day demo advertised as available at: www.twocows.com/preview/174742.html

WHAT CL should do and WHETHER CL should do it are two, different areguments. DUH.

Yo Steve. Fact you're up at 2:45 a.m. to follow this thread is illuminating. Forget the spin, you really ought to listen carefully to your customers, they, not warez copiers are your market. Why make unwarranted assumptions about your "competition" from pirate sites. There's a lot CL could do to cut down on piracy short of the program it has embarked on. e.g why put a manual on the CD? If CL stay's the course, I'll bet you a steak it'll have a couple of strong competitors within the year. Concentrate on product and lead the pack, concentrate on pirates and lose the lead. Sincerely gww

Here's some gratuitous advice for CL. 1) Never inconvenience a customer. Save falling-out between partners, no other reason causes so many failures. CL should immediately drop its "security" plans if it wants to survive. 2) A good product builds repeat business. "Eyewash" or self-serving upgrades don't cut it. CL should concentrate on their product quality. 3) "Fleas are good for a dog ... keeps his mind off being a dog" It may just be that warez sites keep would-be competitors at bay. I doubt all PPP sales on warez sites would have been CL customers. Ever thought that maybe the problem is that PPP is not as "hot" as CL would like to think it is?