Read this thread !

https://www.renderosity.com/forums/threads/2979205/poser-12-colored-spots-only-show-white

you note a pretty obvious problem that was not consistent in previous poser versions but then you get told it has been fixed in the next version 13 and sorry poser 12 has had he's last update already. But it is still on sale and sorry colored lights ain't working and will not be fixed. Is this a way of handling Customers that pay in good faith ? so it seems poser 12 just has to live with only white lights .... but probably also just a unique user issue based on a system error!   

Rhia474 posted at 12:35 PM Sun, 7 May 2023 - #4464566

It has been said on this thread multiple times that other users are *not* experiencing this issue. It's also been said ad nauseam that if you have an issue that is repeating on your system, please submit a ticket so it can be investigated properly. That is the industry accepted way of tracking down software issues by end users.

Not sure how many times that needs to be repeated.

btw in this thread already 4 users are encountering the same Issues you are the first that does not have any of them at all ! 

AmbientShade posted at 10:42 AM Sun, 7 May 2023 - #4464549

JoePublic posted at 11:25 PM Sat, 6 May 2023 - #4464514

Speaking of exporting: Preview Renders can't be exported anymore using the normal "Tear off" dialog in P13.

This will result in a completely black picture.

Only if you export from the "Recent Renders" bar, will the preview picture be properly exported.

What do you mean by "tear off" dialog?

if you save a Preview render for example if you want to show the wireframe or especially if you use the comic styles where you absolutely need the Preview render option you get this result when saving your render.

Screenshot of the work to be rendered

And here your stunning saved Preview Render to get this comic effect  !

As you can see you get a all new experience ! a Black render ..... That render engine is totally broken !! Comic creators are going to make a happy dance for sure :) 

In the poser window you will see the render of the preview but also with broken horizontal lines ( No Optional Screenshot possible )  so for this options poser is of no more use. Hope they do not take these options away as shortcut fix !

Has anything been tested before releasing Poser 13 ? or were they just blinded by a Holy Grale ? This is a mayor hiccup blowing it right to the dark side .

I recommend reporting this to support.posersoftware.com so they can address it. 

So now without joking around Put your glasses on Please !

every single border is a mess, useless results! you can see the errors especially on the eyes, lips, on the chin you even get horizontal lines. Looks like an old broken tv with horizontal lines. So seriously if the preview is better then the final render with a high setting then there is clearly a big problem

Here the sample for the issue

and here is the fix

On superfly you have a mayor discrepancy of light and contrast right at the end of the render. I am still trying to find a way around this Hiccup in superfly as well ! It is almost impossible making a render with hard contrast like in a dungeon as at the end it will change the contrast and lighten up your render. only way to fix it is in a photo app making some postworks on the lights. So both engines have a issue and fail right at the end not just firefly, just that firefly is way worse then superfly.

A tester is supposed to test both render options. btw programmers should also check if there renderings are working correctly, so I assume they do not have a solution for the issue ATM and are well aware of the issue. 

corvas posted at 4:25 AM Sun, 7 May 2023 - #4464523

@blackbonner 

Thank you!  I just made the hair in Blender using the hair particle system which I converted to their new hair curves system. In Blender 3.5 they have the new hair assets so used the shrinkwrap curves to get the look I was after. After I was happy I just converted the curves into actual geometry and imported it into Poser and rendered using the PrincipledHair bsdf shader. It was actual hair strands with over 1mil polygons and surprisingly Poser handled it really well.

I am really hoping one day someone could make a addon for Poser so we could import blender curves as Poser hair. That would make life so much easier.

on the render on the L eyelash I am not sure , is this a lost polygon that is causing a triangle? or is it a shadow .... boy that render looks awesome 

Like so (very rough render, stopped after a few samples)

Actually it is really strange that all these testers and the programmers did not realize that issue, It is the most important part of poser having a clear render that you can compare with the slider. They seem to need a Eye check and some glasses as it seems. I'v noted that issue right on the beginning and mentioned it . It can't be overseen, well unless you probably have an old un sharp screen that is blurring out the Image :) or it is that dirty that details cant be seen anymore.

Such a thing normally does not need to be reported and probably what most users thought, it is a crystal clear issue that would be expected to be fixed quiet fast!

For the ones who do not see the issue, Look for the hiccup right at the end, in Firefly as well in superfly. until fixed I just call it the Poser hiccup-engine :)

It is like taking a picture and the object moves right at the moment when you take the shot , as if someone is shaking your screen or hitting on top of it right at the end. Hope that issue does not cause permanent Damage to the screens

asking for screenshots in such a case is a real joke! sounds a little like a excuse not wanting to fix an issue

The tiger render looks great like the hair effect came out really good

with a little exception that might be disturbing .. the tail in the face just a tiny angle adjustment needed. Laying the tail on the back leg would make it look perfect :)

Well lets call it ... New render engine with included Hiccup! in Superfly Gamma Hiccup and in Firefly squish Hiccup, a all new experience to render :) no other 3D app can do this 

Same here I already mentioned it in the forums. Firefly is of no use in Poser 13 renders get horizontal cuts and gets squished together you can even see the lines. so not a gamma issue like in superfly it is simply a broken render engine ! 

Firefly in Poser 13 of no use you need to use a older Poser version for that feature !

Also the final render after saving in Firefly is of less quality then a firefly render in poser 11 you see this when you enlarge over 100% with same settings.

I guess it could not be understood here what I was trying to say and why I placed this 3d art in here, It was never an intention when placed to offend anyone nor Poser, the way it was interpreted right after my post ! I have no Idea why some people get the feeling that such a post could be offensive. It was a simple way to visually explain how I work. 

anyway to make it a little bit better to understand ( If it was to Complex ) what I do and why i do it that way. here how it works with references to get results I want In Poser. they are small but still important details and always a beginning. So without references there is no way making Improvements. From my point of view it was not the wrong place to place this comment....

Visual workflow .....

This is the main issue with users here, they always want others to do for them ! Like poser if they cant handle it they say " Poser needs to get a feature that does it for them " even that it is already existent ! So Nop no tutorials . I had it not with ghostship2 as this user is trying to find solutions, improvements , that creators renders are OK and getting better . 

No need to prove my self by showing you how it could be done, you probably would not even understand. A reference already should show you where work can be done in Poser even if it is just for expressions if not for skins.