@Jevans69
I hope i can explain you my opinions. ( my english is not the best) . What makes me really here are a few things.
A few words about child nudity guidelines. I accept it. Sure. We have to protect children and childporn is something really dreadfull and pervert.  I can understand when the Moderators dont accept nude images whith the mill. kids. These are real people character.
But Aiko. Aiko is a Anime , Toon character. She has morphs like an adult. You can buy for here clothes which are sexy and and really forbidden hot. Here at MP.
I have seen so many images whith her in clothes and pose who really looks more sexy than a nudity image whith her.
This is allowed. Nobody complains because you can buy this stuff here at MP. But for me this is not a diffrent, nudity or sexy clothes. Both shows her sexuality.
The second thing which makes me angry is that here are really some "holy guardians" of the gallerie who supported each nipple which has not the nudity flag on. The other side is, when you take a look in their worst galleries, you can see images whith violence that blows you away.
And the great discussions here in the forums are never about such images, just only about nudity images.
Bills image they removed from the galleries, a image which was art in any form. Beautyfull and sensual whit a little humor. ( I know know which one they removed)
And this image dont breake any guidelines. So why they removed it? Censoring or maybee somebody was jelous?

Quote - To clarify, having an image removed due to violation of the child nudity guidelines is in no way equal to creating child porn.
At All.
All it means is that you've violated our Child Image Guidelines.  We've removed quite a few very innocent images that, because they violated the Guidelines, had to go.  And, yes, if many of the old masters, who painted cherubs and young babies in the nude, were to post their art here, it would be removed on those guidelines.  We here do not say what is and is not Art.  We do, however, say what is acceptable for our site.

MS

Child Porn??? Excuse me, but between porn and nudity is a big hole.
But okay, i understand. But sorry i have to laugh. You removed great art from your site because you think ist violated the child nudity guidelines,  and i am sure this image we are talking about was not  break the child nudity guidelines ,the other side is i can see here a lot of hardcore violence on images in the galleries, Michael whith holes in his head and another nice things.
But nobody cares. Sorry but this is for me pervert.

Quote - Eric,

 

The Contest rules clearly state No Nudity is allowed. So even though you have her positioned the way you do, the breasts are still not covered with clothing.  Sorry

@Stacey
Sorry, but this really put a smile on my face. Dont missunderstand me, i accept the TOS for the conntest whith no nudity.
You write it clear and whithout any chanche to missunderstand , in the contest rules.
But the reason why i smile is, i think you made this rules because for some member which are under 18 . Thats okay. I agrre when companys try to protect children from worst suggestions.
On Erics image you can see a little breasts. Not much, because she covers the most of. This is not alloved, because nudity and maybee people under 18 could see it.
But the other way is, you have no problems to show Bloodsplashed, rooten zombies which eaten humans body. LOL What do you think? Are these images okay for people under 18?
Sorry, for me this is a little confus.

Quote - sorry ladona i never meant to imply bills work was porn, i'm sure it isn't. but it looks like some thought it depicted someone under 18.  nakedness in itself and within art doesn't worry me but i guess the mods have to cater for everyone including kids. the mere fact they have to try and cater for everyone means some won't get catered for. your loyalty to bills art is commendable.

billy

Okay, i understand you

Quote - Toons... man, oh man... you haven't really lived until you've done a batch download of what you thought was clipart and open it up to find that it's got Snoopy - Charlie Brown porn in it. Some things will wake you up faster than a hot cup o' coffee, I'll tell ya...

 

Okay, i agree, this is pervert. But we are talking here about a image which shows Aiko nacked.
Not porn. A nudity image. Whith a toon character.

@billy423uk
This image was removed bevore i could see it. But how i told you. I know Bills gallarie,i know his art. (He is on my fav. list) I i never seen a image from Bill, which was ugly or has something to do whith porn. So for me its not matter if i have seen this special image. I would put my hands in fire for Support Bills artwork, because i am sure i am right.
He is a fantastic artist, he inspires a lot of people whith his art and its sad what happens to him.

but from the galleries i have seen of others, very little of it is tastefull, unique or beautiful.

Yes, i agree whith you. You can see here a lot of images but how you said.
And the other hand is, artist like Bill, who really make unique and beautyfull art., tastefull in each details, they mave to remove his images. Its sad.

Don't be surprised if full artists decided to leave your site, it's so sad that Art nudity is not consider like Art......

Maybee we people here in Europe see art whith another eyes. I dont know. But i have seen a lot of diskussions in diffrent forums about nudity in art and sorry, but sometimes i really have to laugh.
Nudity in art you can find everywhere. If you look the work of the oldmaster, nudity all over. Whit little nymps, cherubs, and i can find nothing pervert in it.
But okay, i accept here the guidelines for children nudity. Its okay and and i think neccesary. But
Aiko is a toon character, everybody knows that.  I never seen in Aiko a real human character , so for me, you can morph her a childface, she stay for me as a anime, toon character.

**billy423uk

**has anyone qctually seen the image?

I know Primaltucks Artwork. I have never seen a image from Bill which was somehow pervert or something like this.
His Art is unique, Beautyfull and allways tastefull. Even whith nudity characters. And even whith nudity Aiko.
More tastefull like some images whith the "over 18 years V3 "in breasts like melons or ballons.

@jevans
If you go through the gallereis and search for Aiko images , you will see a lot of nudity.
So why one image is banned the other one no?
TOS is okay, but the TOS are for everybody and not for just a few people.
Its unfair to remove one image from the galleries and leave the another one.
If the admins say Aikos nudity breack the Rosity rules okay,i accept. But i cant accept why one artist have to remove his image and the another one not.

Quote - The thing is Aiko can be rendered to appear over the age of 18 .  That is why not all Aiko gallery images have been pulled, its all in the apperance of the FINAL rendered image, the character really doesn't matter.

But Stacey, Aiko allways look young. I have never seen a image whith Aiko where she looked over 18. Aiko has a dollface.

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You cant find nowhere sexy stuff for the Mill. girls. But for Aiko yes. See, we just found a new market for yet undiscovered products LOL ;)

LOL   :thumbupboth:  we are really great!!!

Quote - > Quote - And what is about sexy lingerie and sexy clothes for Aiko? Some clothes are really looking too sexy for a girl under 18.

But you can buy here at the MP a lot of high heels, sexy lingerie, and other stuff.
This is very strange. For one side she is not old enough to be nacked, the other side she is old enough to wear Table dance look?

Yes, but is the Merchant responsible on how the artist uses their products?

Tell me how you can use sexy lingerie and pin up clothes. Pin Up poses and so on.
The is i think not so much way to use it.
For pin up images and sexy images.
You cant find nowhere sexy stuff for the Mill. girls. But for Aiko yes.

@dolphins Dreams
What kind of rules you mean? There are no rules till now for Aikos nudity.

And what is about sexy lingerie and sexy clothes for Aiko? Some clothes are really looking too sexy for a girl under 18.
But you can buy here at the MP a lot of high heels, sexy lingerie, and other stuff.
This is very strange. For one side she is not old enough to be nacked, the other side she is old enough to wear Table dance look?

Quote - I will certainly discuss with the other members of the team about possibly changing our guidelines in the TOS about Aiko but there will be others that I'm assuming could fall in this same category:(

@Stacey this is a first step i think. But at last Aiko is for me just a Anime, toon figur. has nothing to do whith a real person like the other characters.
Cute yes, but not the way like the Millenium girls.
And how i understand the thing here, Bill gets a warning from you. Why? Aikos nudity stands not in your TOS and Guidelines. So its unfair.

Unicorst I agree whith you. If Rendero write in their TOS and guidelines , no Nudit Aiko, everybody knows. But this way looks just like censoring.
Its so sad so many Artist leave this place .
I know Bills art and i am sure there was nothening pervert on this.