People (usually) don't even take the time to pose the eyeballs or fingers...so what do you expect...staring and profusely bent knuckles do not make for variety...yeah...most images look Vicki-ish...most ads look Vicki-ish...well...there IS the odd Stephanie now...heh... On the other hand...there are also some REAL awsome renderings that defy all logic and really make a difference!!...in a ways it's good that no everyone can do this or they wouldn't be as noticable...LOL! I think the problem is most folks don't think about the face and hands...they may be in a hurry to just get the image out and look at the body and background thinking...okay...that's cool now...notice how much time is spent on the breasts at times though...my word...perfect huge gazonga's...yet the eyeballs may just STARE...the fingers might look broken...sometimes the neck seems out of wack...maybe cause of those big gazonga's...LOL... ...gets tiring getting all the clothes just right...(if there is clothes)...the hair to not look like bubblegum...the knees to not look like wood splinters...after all that...who wants to dabble with eyeballs and knuckles...who...?? Hey...I didn't start this thread... Cheers!

Yup...fast!....but....WHO is arthur....inquiring forum minds want to know who this was named after....or is this just another ebot brother...?..;-)

[If tammy says it, expect something cool and big. ;)] Yuppers!!....got that right Paul! Now...back to this car thingy...um.....Ferrari huh...okay...on THAT one I will race you with the Lotus...

Blech..race you with my Porche'..(when I get it)..LOL! ;-)

No offense...realism can be had with a good camera anytime....art is for imagination...inspiration...dreams...stuff one cannot get through realism that even "photographers" aspire to create many times with "trick photography" and "darkrooms" and "special effects"...art is for going beyond the "limitations" of "real"...for renderings just like this one displayed here...that are beautiful, enchanting...surreal...feel good...but NOT at all necessarily real.... Cheers ;-)

[CP just helps you find it and helps in the installation.] Perhaps this is the part I like the least...(pushy shoe salesman?).... Suppose one would have to see how this goes....but...I really would not like poser to become an essential "pre-fab software" instead of an essential "digital tool" to "create/render" with...or...to put it another way....a "3D shoppers dream"...rather than....a "3D artists dream"... Time...suppose time will tell... Cheers!

That's....that's...that's almost as good as phone sex....just dial...pay later... ....hoolabalooha....let me digest this....you almost make P5 sound like some portable store/mall that folks will be carrying around...got liquid cash..??...now there's liquid poser.....3D bucks will be out soon?......geez...don't mean this the wrong ways...nono...nope....but I never did much like phone sex...ex loved the home shopping cahnnel...I don't...blah....maybe a little too much emphasis on shopping?...buying?...selling?....just maybe..??...but...ya know...just gotta say now...I do hope it's gonna be an art tool too...I do...I do...I do... I didn't even like talking cars...(they still have those?)...you know...."your door is ajar"..."your door is ajar"...NO..it's a door you dumb car!!....I absolutely despise car alarms...heard one the other day that SHRIEKED like a woman in real distress...like...does ANYONE listen to these with any kind of serious tone...folks pay lots for these just to irritate themselves and others... Suppose getting reminded to buy stuff in an art program...or led around by the hand...that too could be annoying...trying to do a pic...oooh....would you like to buy a pretty ring for your dolly now?...later?...would you like to be reminded?.....phooey on that!....I find although I do like advertising...I like it when I have a "choice" to find it myself...I hate it when it is shoved up my nose...butt...or any place else....I find MOST consumers are like me....we all tend to not like those "PUSHY" shoe salesmen that JUMP on you the moment you enter a store....at the same time...try to find help at Wal-Mart these days....they have almost a monopoly...why bother anymore...grumble....happens when you get too good or way too big on your britches... ...and then you stand a danger of over saturation...too many hot dog stands all over....no more real pure beef dogs.......then oops.....then decline.....boom!...paradise...lost Cheers! ;-)

You mean utopia is just around the corner...?? Woohoo...okay...well....there better be sandy beaches...tons of hot babes..."willing"....fruits aplenty...a clear refreshing ocean...a brand new Porche...and a Lamborghini and Ferrari in case I get bored...and a mint Model T for my nostalgic moments....a villa with all the "extra's"....a real "true" remedy for male onset baldness...a duel Pentium P4 with tons of goodies and add-ons and a proper "bus" to go with it...no tanlines...some real good new movies with some originality...no more cavities meaning no more dentists...an "easy" way to quit smoking...there's more...but this should be a good starting point...;-)

Yeah....that is very difficult indeed...got a point there....lots of work...LOTS! On the other hand...if and when THIS kind of work "could" actually be done "out of box"....without much imagination...can you even think of how many would be displaced and out of work...?? I mean...then...why even bother trying...if one can just click...click...click...;-)

timoteo1....not sure what you mean by animators and not being able to get this result with poser 4 because of that....?? If you are talking about "still" images....look at so many of the images here in the best of the gallery stuff alone...that is just "poser" too...I have and DO see stuff like this quality done already...the background CAN be created with "other" programs (if this one was not already done JUST that way...)....this girl can be rendered various different ways...there is far more out there in the REAL world besides poser...besides max...etc...etc...etc...;-)

Well....that is disappointing then...for shame...naughty...naughty...tsk..tsk...tsk!...the dunce hat and in the corner for you for this day...and no milk and cookies!! But I don't "think" wolf is actually SAYING it is his/her work...??? On a side note folks...this CAN be done with poser 4...photoshop and a little imagination already....I say this because I see it done every week... I think poser 5 is an awsome adventure to look forward to....on the other hand...it could be a software laced with bugs yet...let's have fun finding out...Max 5 is out and I haven't heard much about it yet.... Photoshop 7 came out without any glitches...that was awsome...let's hope poser 5 does near as well ;-)

WOW!!....that looks awsome!...great lighting too!

Wow CM LW....your Mama brought you up with good manners I see...I wouldn't like being in a bank line up with you...or any other ten million line up's we cater to in our daily, busy lives...or traffic jams...you would probably be like those real LOUD assertive folks that just make things even more uncomfortable for everyone else by ranting and raging all the ways...I bet you always opened all your presents first at Christmas too huh...;-)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

I "feel" your loss and grieve with you both as well as pray for an eventual understanding and comprehension to such a tragedy...two thoughts hard to deal with at times of such great sadness... ...as well I wish for you both a long memory of warmth and happiness when thinking of your dear departed friend, for he sounds as if someone that would wish to leave behind only wonderful feelings among all he mentally touched in his life...