Actually morgano that is not strictly true, the 6.1 update to Carrara has significantly improved its texture and memory handling abilities.

I have been able to cram an incredible amount of items/ figures into a scene(v4,v3,a3,sp3,m3,d3, all clothed and texured and with hair,stonemasons backstreets, mill dragon 2, that big ship by faveral etc) without Carrara Out of Memorying.

There was more in the scene but I cannot remember what else I stuck in, Oh yes apollo was in there and uzilte sports car. and still carrara kept going. it also rendered at very high quality settings with GI enabled.

Ah Thelby,

you beat me to it. I don't have any plugins for my version of Cararra so I am not sure if running the program will affect plugins, as it makes a change to the Carrara exe.??

would be interested to find out.

But if you combine this with C6.1Pro's better memory and content handling and you should be able to create some huge scenes.

Let me know how it goes for you.

Nick.

sixus 1 still not up???.

I know that I can get the models through CP. but I prefer to buy direclty from the vendor + Sixus1's prices for some models are much better.

Alas, my window for purchasing has now passed. Maybe next month.

BOOOHOOO.

Thanks for checking it out for me mate.

BARCODE WROTE "Man dont have the Eyelid under the pupil Female do have that .

And the eyes are too large and round to be a  males eyes. Thats what struck me as being slighty off with the V4.2 male faces.

You gotta be able to have that  'clint eastwood', squint. hee.

Interesting stuff indeed,

I have noticed that alot of texures for products here and at other places, have textures that are 3000x3000, does that mean that Poser 7 or Carrara(as I use this also), is having to allocate memory to this texture as if it was actually 4096x4096.

The reason I ask is that I regularly reduce my texures by half to get better memory usage so (3000x300 would become 1500x1500. But is the reality that the software or my system, will actually 'optomise' this texture size to 2048x2048, which would mean I am not getting the memory saving's that I expected.

Or am I just way off  base.???

The point of my post's is not doom and gloom etc. The point is whether the MARKET as it currently stands is sufficient to generate enough money for Poser to develop. That could also be applied to any product operating in this arena. 

It would appear that EF have not been able to make sufficient profit. Why??,  was it bad marketing, or not giving the users what they want. Was it some poorly implimented features, (Firefly's multi core rendering seriously sucks). These things are all application killers in what is now an exceptionally competitive market place.

I hope that the new acquirers do impliment good Poser development and marketing, but they will only do that if they perceive that the market in which Poser sits will sustain and give a good return on that investment. Its just business. Going by smith micro's splash screen they currently seem to think it does, but they are a Public Company with shareholders to appease, the bottom line is profitabilty. we shall see.

I too will always use Poser, infact I am frankensteining a version of the scorpion king using M2 and Noggins scorpion as we speak.

Pagan Artist, Studio and Carrara both use multiple cores in their rendering. Carrara actually is a very good app, which will be outstanding for using content once they iron out some of the import  issues.

Peace,

Nick.

Don't get me wrong. I love Poser. I have been using it for several years. I prefer it over Studio, which I have looked at  and just can't get on with, I agree with pagan artist, there just seems to be something missing from studio.

I am not knocking Poser users either, hell I am one and I also use the application for hobbyist purposes, etc. But you need to be aware of the Market in which the app sits. As to features well, Okay, some people maybe happy with Posers current feature set, infact I am one of those that is, well almost, once I get 64bit rendering etc, ala Poser Pro.

But how sustainable is a product that on average costs, what, $150.00??, thats only seventy five lovely english pounds. I can spend that on one evening out in the uk, its peanuts, and for that money you get an amazing application with some incredible features versus the cost of the software. But what encourages people to upgrade?? features do, what encourages people to buy, features do. Bug fixes and fixing current features so that they work are only of interest to the people that already have the software.

How many users have stayed at Poser 5 or 6, because they felt that what poser 7 had to offer was not worth the upgrade price. That is fatal to an application of this type. Every release of poser should leave a user really wanting the upgrade. How else is the software going to evolve.??

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The only reason I suspect that Daz can continue to develop  Studio is because it is heavily subsidised by their content sales and it has many plugin providers via its easily available SDK. The app itself is not self sustainable. That is not nessecarily a good business model. Your base app is in effect a loss leader that will hopefully encourage the purchaser to buy content for that app, again hopefully from yourselves. But how many Poser users actually purchase from content paradise?? certainly not as many who purchase from here or at Daz etc. 

The G2 figures are virtually extinct, how many products have you seen for them outside of Content Paradise and runtimedna.??

Well once I get PoserPro (If it happens and it works), I will have all I need from poser as a standalone application. I can them move on to better implimentation and integration with the next level of apps, Cinema is my choice, in my case.

Poser as an application has a fintie level of progression verses the market in which it is used and it has almost reached that level in my opinion. Clearly Daz has removed a large chunk of market share from Poser, with Daz Studio and the huge Potential of C6Pro, leaving Poser with possibly to small a user base at this market level to progress or be viable, hence the desire and need to develop into the Pro market.

There comes a point of diminishing returns. Poser users want all of the features of more expensive applications without paying the cost that developing and maintaining those features costs. The amateur market cannot support the further development of poser because it balks at the associated costs, hence the Product begins to stall, which I feel we have witnessed over the last 12 months or so and with Daz chomping away at  what was once a Feeding ground where Poser was the only application capable of doing what it did and you have the possibility of extinction.

Carrara is an interesting application because it sits at the cusp of the Professional and amateur markets in relation to functionality and features. Being a jack of all trades, it is probably best positioned to survive but it does cost more that Poser (C6Pro). But it could also begin to fade as it reaches the limits of its chosen market. Lets face it C6Pro is not much of a significant upgrade to C5pro. Indeed if you compare it to the upgrades that have recently been made for cinema to V10.5 and the introduction of Vray rendering Plugin for that app as well, it looks pathetic, but I guess relevent for its target market.

It would be nice to be optimistic about Posers future and as people have said it has survived ten years with various different owners, but I feel that as an application Poser has nearly run its course in its current incarnation. Poser Pro however may offer a light to the future of the App, but only if the market is there for it and willing to support its development, which will mean it costing more.

We shall see. Just my modest view. Heehee.

Nick.

Bagginsbill,

Thank you for these little tutes on AO and  your postings on HDRI.  Following your threads over the last few weeks have improved my understanding of lighting and nodes no end. I have finally been able to get the look to my renders that I have been after for so long.

EF, should give you a Job. this is where this community Really SHINES.

Again,

Many thanks, Nick.

Oh, many many thanks.!!!!

Damn Daz, I had been over that site loads, tried tonnes of different catagories. Oh well, now I can get it and let the horror commence!!!!!!, heehee.

Nick.

May I just add to this.

I have a two machine setup one system Intel quad core QX6700 running @2.8, 4 gigs ram.

second system AMD FX60, 64, running @2.7, with 4 gigs ram.

Without being technical it HAMMERS the dual core., In comparison renders it is on average 70+% faster. period. On Poser 7, or any other package that sees more than one processor.

On one test the quad had finished rendering before the dual had even started.!!!

Be under no illusions quad core processors give unrivelled and definate performance gains.

Hi wimvdb,

Yep, set to 32 bits.

For some reason,

The hardware shading option is disabled, poser says this feature is not supported, plus it will only allow me to have a max preview texture size of 1024.

I have run diags on the video card and they all check out. Thats why I thought it might be a driver issue. Poser just doesn't seem to be seeing this video card correctly.

Uhhmm,

Very true. I have been seriously considering Cinema 4d R10 plus interposer pro, of course.

Looks like that combination could give me everything I need.

Just the outlay, ouch!!!.