Addendum to my above posting: I have been experimenting with leaving the roof off and assigning different ambient values in the Mat. room to the various objects in my scene with encouraging results and I think I am in the right direction. However this is a tedious process, especially with many objects in a scene and will require a lot of time for experimentaion. I would like to control the effects with the lights rather than the objects.

To late! Already did it. It did say it does not have spyware though, are they lying?

Thanks Cruzan

I had the same exact problem as Badco #25. Damn it! Now what do I do?

I'm a little confused here, I see there is a forum for SR2 and this thread refers to an SR3? Yet, when I go to the CL site they are only posting an SR1. How can one have an SR3 when they haven't even posted and SR2? Or was the SR2 hidden somewhere and I missed it? What the hell, for that matter why not wow everyone and call it an SR10! Thanks

That's exactly what I did Ockham. I was lucky in that it was a simple primitive to delete and replace. That eventually solved it; but, it seems like a work-a-round. I wonder how tough it would be if it was complex. Thanks

I've wondered that too?

I can't help only sympathize, you are not alone, my cursor occasionally disappears too and I have to shut down the program and then reopen. Not as serious as your problem; but, I will be watching this thread for the solution.

...and I got a CL tech reply the other day too. It took 2 days.

Say Anton, I like the background color you are using. It must be a Mat lab creation, would mind sharing the formula? Thanks, Larry-L

Well, I got rid of the hair. That was it, after that it just renderd on. I finally posted it: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=333656&Start=1&Sectionid=1&WhatsNew=Yes I'm done with this one. Thanks agian all.

Oh! and to solve the hair problem for the future, I guess I'm going to have to learn how to use a Wacom tablet and PS to do hair. I love challenges!

Well, a CL tech finally got back to me and said it's probably the hair on all my figures that's causing the problem. I created 12K hairs in the hair room for each figure. I figure I can eliminate a couple of them and use just the scull cap to acheive the look I need in this one. Anyway, I'm just about done recreating the file and it is rendering okay for now. Come to think of it, the other file I referenced that I couldn't render in FF too had 5 actors all with extensive hair. It would seem for now that the P5 hair room & FF doesn't play well together unless it's pretty simple stuff. I think CL is going to have to work on that if they want to be taken seriously by proffessionals. Thanks once again to all of you for the help. I've learned a lot more than I knew this morning.

Boy, thanks for all the tips. Gabrial--I started to redo the file before I read your reply and I am saving 2 copies now. I've never had any problems whatsoever with my system, programs or files in any way until today. This could just have been a single fluke; however, I am not above prudence and will do what you suggest. Huolong--your suggestion sounds intriguing. I'm all for optimizing anything. Where does one get "correct reference"? Zenman--It's important for me to have shadows for my spotlights; but, I will reduce the map sizing and turn off shadows for hair as well as all unnecessary objects. I have already finished half the file (I had a lot of the objects, poses & figures saved) and I am test rendering in FF every step of the way. So far so good. Thanks, all of you have been a great help.

Well, this is a kick in the head. While trying to revert to my saved file after trying Zenman's tips P5 crashed and somehow wiped out my whole file???? I will now have to recreate this from scratch--Damn it! If Poser was a human it would have my fist in it's face right now.