Hmm A man In the shower? I wonder where that idea came from?? ;) Love the steam. I see what you meant. but you didn't try the change of highlight color did it not work right? and very funny as always, I did expect somthing a bit more risque after the evil grin yesterday but I love it!!!

Yes thank you Clint!!!! Looking forward to future discusions

This has been great, I lookforward to seeing how this affect the standards here. for Clint I never whine or bitch it gets you no where. I just wanted to talked it out and it looks like we are. Looking forward to a long and fruitfull (you can take that one anyway you want) assoc with you all.

Thank you clint truly that is all i wanted if the admins decide that the line is here. . . or here that is fine as long as it is fair and eqitable to all. I was not making any acusations. actually mostly I was confused cuz I though it was a tech glich. did you evEr get the email in question from me.

To ScottA Like I said before I never cried foul I just wanted to know what was going on and while I appreacieat this diologe I didn't start it. I was told about it and joined in because it was my piece and feel obligated to do so has any body at your end even seen the email I sent asking about all of this in the first place??

TO scottA All i recieved is a genaric email(see below) saying that I had broken the guidlines. and no way to apeal that I could see. I was confused I had based my choice on other gallerie postings. all of the feed back had been good. so as you can imagin it was bewildering, I will try to "tame" it down but I have to admit I don't want to be responcible for the "dirty minds " of others. I still don't see how I crossed eother of those lines?? Tony, The image you uploaded to the Art Gallery at Renderosity called "There is nothing like a hot shower!!! (nudity)" has been removed for violating the upload guidelines. The guidelines state: "No depictions of physical arousal or sexual acts." The image broke this guideline and has been removed from the Art Gallery. Please refrain from uploading images that break the Art Gallery Guidelines. Thanks, Clint Hawkins Renderosity Administration Content Development and Management www.Renderosity.com

For the record!! that is not what is going on in the image. and further to moscas point Unless you are way too limber and hung like a . . it cant be done!! from that angle, or proximity they are further apart(down there) than you think. (take my word for it!!!)

To ScottA I hope you read all of the posts Particularly the ones from me since it is my piece I did what I felt was responcible I sent a private email. TO which I have recieve no amswer. I am not bitching about this and want it to come to nothing. I just wanted to make sure tha the playing field was level. But most of all if there is a problem with my work talk to me!! I don't have a proble modifying my work with in reason but I was basing this piesc on the limits I had seen already in the galleries to Penn thanks for the welcome!!! and I hope after this I hope I still am!!

Well aureeanna, I hate to tell you this but unlike some out there I don't see sex every where. In my mind it was intamet time after a long hard(not that kind)Day. as for removing it all, I though that was why they had a nudity button. Clearly they need an affection buttion. while I may not agree with you thank you for sounding in.

Hey Pen I wish that curtin had been ready but I had fun modifying a set of window curtains :)

Thank you all for your support and I think that this will work out ok in the long run but I have to admit it would be nice to hear from the guy who pulled it. and to you penguinisto yours was the prop I needed to inspire. It all came out of you alls prop. I had sat down to do a very different piece ( somthing sci fi) and I saw your prop. that was it like a bolt.

Well since it is my piece I should weigh in on the subject. I am not trying to start any trouble. I just wanted to understand why my piece was pulled. I was not trying to offend anyone or go outside the "guidelines" I didn't see anything sexual. Just affection. I don't know about the rest of you out there but if you have ever tried to have sex in the shower usually one of you ends up with a concussion. I don't know if it will get me kicked off the site, I did repost it cuz I though it was a tech glich. I don't mind that there are guidline but I created that piece with the best of intentions as for the army dudes in woods I think you are referring to my piece "don't ask." I truly don't want this to become a big deal I had already sent email to the admin about it. I like it here, and I want to stay! but I guess I would like some guidence about content. I am a gay man and there for by deffinition all my work is gay reguardless of sexual or non-sexual content. I would like to continue to share and grow with you all. I would like to learn from you and you all can (perhaps)learn from me.