Instead of listing what I want for a poser upgrade which may be another three years off I'll take another tack which may be more immediate, Bryce 6 wishlist. import of strand based hair inport of shader trees (or complete adoption of the shader tree system which seems far more versitile then Bryces) a combo of that and poser 5 would make me happy for years to come and I wouldn't realy need another upgrade of poser(except the much needed bug fixes)

If my statement was seen as an attempt to say that CL shouldn't put out P5 for the mac thats not true they should and will. I want the Mac to succeed my statement was that the likelyhood is not as good that they will survive in their present form in the long run. sure they are profitable on paper. if one doesn't include $316 million in long term debt (they did retire 1 million of that debt last year which is I guess a good sign) but these cool new Imacs were not as much of a success as they wished for (doesn't mean I dont want one, they're so cool!) they're sitting on 34 million dollars in inventory almost twice that of last year. not a good sign. but then I could be wrong.

not to bash the mac or apple but isn't apple just as much a monopoly? how many companys are allowed to produce hardware that runs OSX only one that I know of, and other then a half year failed experiment a while back, that has always been true and the same thing is true of the OS. now there are pluses and minuses to this to be sure, one big plus is stability if you have a lmited number of configurations to work with there is less chance of software-hardware incompatability, but you also loose in the competitive marketplace to an overwhelming variety of less expensive alternatives which is what happened. I have worked on both Macs and PCs the Mac is the Betamax of the computer industry arguably better in many aspects but the need to control their product so stringently has probably religated them to the same fate as the betamax. The bare truth is that Apple has come close to bankruptsy too many times to be sure of their future. and sure the statistics include those who use PCs as oversized word processers but that distinction doesnt matter in the long run. I love the Mac but I bought a PC for the same reason I bought a VHS recorder. no one can be sure Apple can stay afloat indefinately. Does anyone remember the amiga? OK bring on the flames.

hmm sounds like an interesting method, will it have to be regrouped for textures?

No for tight fitting clothing conforming clothing will still come in handy. but I think collision detection can help some conforming clothing issues as well, though to take advantage of collision detection some will have to be built a little different.

Cool!

CL never said that strand based hair would replace transmapped hair in fact Kupa said just the opposite several times, P5 is a lot more then strand based hair. that is just one aspect of the program, results of the cloth room are fully exportable. and stop blameing CL for including a feature that is too advanced for other programs to import. the multi-hundred dollar strand based hair plug-ins for some of the high end programs have the same export limitations.

that was definately just for the strand based hair, I've imported P5 obj files just fine into bryce. though strand based hair is useless in bryce in my opinion, best to stick with the transmapped stuff for that.

If the mesh was designed under a work for hire contract then the mesh copyrights belong to CL which I believe is the case. Nevertheless gray area's of the EULA notwithstanding it has been pointed out by practicly every member of the CL staff time and time again that buisness would go on without change in respect to aftermarket content creation. If you could do it before you can still do it. copyright law doesn't change becouse of the EULA. the reason anthony can not comment is becouse Kupa has stated that he is discussing the possability of clarifying their position or the EULA with experts, and any comments before that process is complete could be detrimental to the process.

I believe it's by the same guy that ran the demo at dragoncon.

I'll let you know, I take posession of my new compaq custom system tomorrow assuming it shipped on time.:) used the Bestbuy creation station. (Warranty? I don't need no thtinkin exthtended warranty, gringo!)

This is great stuff guys. perhaps you could post your findings over at the new P5 tricks and tips forum at Poserpros for the benifit of those who can't get in here. or with your permission I could transcribe it Using your pictures?

probably better then most but Poser5 will take all the ram you can throw at it so a gig would be better then 512mb

all that stuff is fully usable in P5

while it was partly my original request that brought it about, it was mehndi who acted quickly to offer this resorce.