again thanks for all the tips and feedback. today i got the stones and groundcover and will play around with that ...

i rendered a building we are developing with vue's rock and grass material and from this distant it looks ok i think (esp considering its a kindergarten where the grass is not green everywhere :)

(image is copyright 2009 LukasLang Building Technologies)

the grassroof needs to be worked on. looks too fluffy. i used the vue grass material scaled down at 0.5 ...

the white background is on purpose for now as i have no idea what to make there (street, fence ....)

thanks for the info, Gill. have to do some more shopping tomorrow :)

i tried to apply my understanding so far and started producing little grassland parts.

first i reduced the randomness in the plant settings.

then i unchecked "force regular placment" in material distribution

and finally i reduced flexiblilty (again in plant settings) and changed the sun a bit

so compared to vue's own grass i am quite happy with this so far ...

for longer distance the material solution will be sufficient but for the foreground it would be nice to at least see the blades of grass where they border on a wall or similar.

so part of the "perfect way" is to balance the amount of eco grass vs material grass.

i find the vue eco grass isnt all bad. to me it resembles grass found out in nature, on uneven terrain and with the color maybe pointing to a little dryness. but i agree for nice lawn grass it wont do unless i find a way to make it look like i would like to :)

after trying to create more reasonable color and shape i end up with this so far:

i used a dark to light green gradient for color and found that with the shape i need to mimic single blades and space between them to get a better look.

and terrakpak just arrived so i will go start to unpack and see what i have got there :-)

thanks for the first feedback. i wanted to buy something off cornucopia but found that i need to login with my office account ... so that has to wait until i get my data from the office :) then i bought the terrapak (was on my radar for some time, now i had the excuse to actually do it ... waiting for the download link though). so in the meantime i am trying to figure out how grass is defined.

i placed one single patch of grass and had a look at the material settings.

then i fired up the gimp and created a blue to yellow gradient as color map which resulted in this.

i chose the extreme colors just to easily see where they go ...

and then finally i tried to change the shape of the grass blades and found its controlled by the transparency map (again created something with gimp leading to this).

so with this i can start finetuning color and shape of a single patch of grass ...

will keep you updated on my endavour in growing vue grass :)

Dear Artur,

I just watched your tutorials ... and they are great! Your voice is very pleasant to listen too. Sound quality is great and the content is presented very clearly.

I dont want to take away of any careful planning you have put into this, but for me the impression was that you just switched on some record button and told some friend a little about this and that in a very relaxed yet clear way and still managed to create this professional tutorial.

You have talent for explaining things! And compared to other commercial tutorials I have seen so far you should not be too shy to accept donations or even a price for the excellent quality.

I am looking forward to any new tutorials you might want to produce.

All the best
Chris

i think i understand now  :D

if i want to be able to see through all the glass i need to increase the subrays number.

if i only want to change the color (when the max subrays number is reached) then i change the murky colour.

thanks for all the help
chris

i tried another link and managed to get the image in here :D

i will try the murkiness thing (have not reached that area in the manual) and i have been experimenting with sub-ray options. that seems to help when i increase numbers there, but increases render time.

Attached Link: other link

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