Ok Steve I have copied the plant files over from my distribution discs. This has not affected the problem at all. (I copied the whole direcotry full of plants, not just the prv files - just realised this) However, after the copy, my vegetation bundle plants have vanished from the plant browser, but not from my HD plant directory. I presume this is a consequence of the copying of the files from the cd plants dierectory., and I won't bother trying to re-install the veg bundle extras unless you need me too until 4.05 is finished.

Here is a report I've just sent to e-on, minus all the memory and other addresses: report 3 As someone reported on the Renderosity forum, if I try to save a picture rendered at preview level in the main view, I get the 'you are rendering at preview level would you like to...' message. If I try to go ahead and save, Vue crashes just like on the import objects problem (four view windows vanish). This is the IPF report: VUE4 caused an invalid page fault in module MSVCRT.DLL at 0177:7800d710. THEN: VUE4 caused an invalid page fault in module MSVCRT.DLL at 0177:7800d32d. Registers: -------------------------- I said I would check on the 'file' button in the vob object browser window. If I click this I get the following crash: VUE4 caused an invalid page fault in module MSVCRT.DLL at 0177:7800d376. Registers: In all of these crashes involving dialogue boxes (save picture, open/import object), the mouse slows down a lot before the crash appearing a few seconds later. ----------------------------- I've hammered the point light and spot light controls, loads of operations and can find no fault. I was going to report the obvious and major bug that when 'no shadows' was selected, point lights still cast shadows, before I remembered that there was a sun in the sky... ------------------------------- in the atmosphere editor, worked for ages with no problem, until I clicked on the 'save atmosphere' button, then I got: VUE4 caused a stack fault in module KERNEL32.DLL at 0177:bff724c1. Registers: ------------------------------- Can't save a vue file either, clicking on save makes it behave just like other file handling dialogue box problems, except this time it didn't crash out completely - the four views and a few other bits vanished, but I could still open new files and existing files - its just that when they had loaded there was nothing there! ---------------------

Steve, it happens just like with MikeJ. Crashes when I click the menu item 'import object'. I haven't tried it through the vob browser file button - I'll try this tomorrow, but it sounds identical.

I can't load plant materials, vue reports it cannot read the .prv files.

Right, I've loaded the beta and it installed fine. Here are a few things I have noted so far. More details will be sent to e-on. 'import object' crashes the program. -------------- In terrain editor, reset the terrain to all zero, went into options and altered seed and an amplitude, clicked ok and still got a flat terrain. If I do this without reseting, using options does alter the terrain, but If I reset, I can't generate a terrain, it just stays flat. no other apparent problems in terrain editor.

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Attached Link: http://www.derby-vi-service.demon.co.uk/pictures.htm

Attached Link: http://www.derby-vi-service.demon.co.uk/pictures

Just a note, Vue 4 does have variable reflections, just click on it in the reflections tab, and I'm sure vue 2 and 3 had it too.

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I'm sure you noticed this, but I forgot to say that you need to put the camera pivot in the centre of your house. Also if you want to tilt the camera up or down at all, doo this before animating it, or things get complicated.

I just checked in my copy of vue 4, and on panning the camera, the Vue stars and stars created using a cloud plane animated ok, so I can't imagine what's going on on your machine, sorry.

I find the best way to reduce render time is to go to the pub, get pissed, crawl home and slump into bed. Its a dramatic method that makes renders fly by.

Yes Varian, the original post is part of a mail to e-on.