Yes, hopefully I can get something done for that in time. I was referring to the pot of gold sales/giveaways we had before.

Thanks Kristi!

Very very excited! He looks wonderful! I know you're not there yet, but I'd love to be able to beta test him when he's ready. Keep up the great work!

Mail sent. Thanks a lot Jenn, I really appreciate it!

Thanks Kristi!

Thanks Kristi!

Plenty of people will still upgrade to the newer versions of Poser whether Genesis will work with it or not, and so will new users. I will as soon as the holidays are done and I can afford it. I doubt SM will have a huge profit loss because of Genesis.

I, too, am uphappy over the divergence of the two programs, simply because I don't believe the market is big enough to "support" two separate collections of figures and contnet. 

Exactly!

And in the interim?  Is anyone going to DIE because V5 (which, again, is just a morph of Genesis) won't work in Poser?  Is anyone going to DIE because figures created with Poser's new system won't work in DS? 

Actually, I think some people just may. :/

All I'm saying is, for God's sake, have some patience!  P9 and PP2012 have only been out for a couple of months, and DS4 and Genesis have only been out for about the same time, and it is far too soon to be getting all upset about it.

Can't speak for the rest of the Poser users, but I am plenty patient. I have at least 2 year old purchases that have never even been installed, let alone things I've installed, but not even toyed with yet.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Now, it may be that the two programs will eventually converge again, but that hasn't happened yet.  Maybe it will happen, and maybe it won't.  But screaming at DAZ about something over which it has NO control at all is not going to make that happen.

 

I think that's one of the main things everyone is upset about...they did have control over it and chose to make a product that was not compatibible with a program that a good percentage of their paying customers use.

Maybe they thought there wouldn't be as much of an outrage about it once everyone saw the possibilities with Genesis and just jump on board....maybe they did and figured they would get enough new users buying into it that it wouldn't affect there income...and maybe it hasn't yet.

I for one and not as upset about it as I was. I have enough of my own personal problems to deal with without getting too worked up over this. If Genesis is ever fully compatible with Poser (without an exporter) I may bite. If not I think I'll survive.

  So DAZ should have stuck with the abilities of the version of Poser available when they started developing Genesis?   But then people would be bitching about DAZ not providing a weight mapped new figure since they didn't know what direction SM was going.  No natter what direction DAZ would have gone people would bitch.  

I would think as a PA you would be more concerned with the way things are going since this could potentially affect your sales in the long run too if you choose to support this new plaform.

Anyhow, if Daz has been talking to SM for (I believe someone said 2 years) about their plans I would assume Daz also knew which route SM was going as well. I don't believe SM is the one that's going to lose potential sales over all of this nonsense. To me it would have made much more sense to figure out some kind of a more acceptable method for Genesis to be used in Poser before they released it. Even if that meant having the annoying exporter ready before Genesis was released for those that don't mind having to use it. IMO there would have been a lot less people upset. Yes, there will always be some people that will bitch and moan.  I have no problem whatsoever with Daz or any other company trying to evolve into more advanced technology. I commend Daz for what they're doing as far as that goes, but again, there might have been a lot less bitching had things been done differently.

Quote - Now, it may be that the two programs will eventually converge again, but that hasn't happened yet.  Maybe it will happen, and maybe it won't.  But screaming at DAZ about something over which it has NO control at all is not going to make that happen.

I think that's one of the main things everyone is upset about...they did have control over it and chose to make a product that was not compatibible with a program that a good percentage of their paying customers use.

Maybe they thought there wouldn't be as much of an outrage about it once everyone saw the possibilities with Genesis and just jump on board....maybe they did and figured they would get enough new users buying into it that it wouldn't affect there income...and maybe it hasn't yet.

I for one and not as upset about it as I was. I have enough of my own personal problems to deal with without getting too worked up over this. If Genesis is ever fully compatible with Poser (without an exporter) I may bite. If not I think I'll survive.

Well then you fit in everywhere huh? lol

Well this has been an interesting read...

I think a big problem with this thread, and most of the similar threads at Daz that have been locked, is whenever a Poser user expresses some sort of issue with Daz whether it's about Genesis or whatever else, a DS user just has to come in and argue with what Poser users are feeling, tell them they are wrong, and defend whatever actions by Daz that someone is upset about.....only causing more anger and frustration, and in the end causing even more Poser vs. Daz nonsense and continuing to split the community.

It would be nice if anyone who doesn't have any issues with Daz (and doesn't even use Poser) would just avoid this thread, and any similar discussions if their posts are not going to be of any help to anyone.

I missed that fine print about not valid on sale items. Thanks for pointing it out! Would be more tempting if it were valid on sale items...

Thank you! :)

You're welcome. Hope it helped!

"What is meant by $3.50 for NEW items?  When is an item no longer new?  Does it go back to the original (non-prime) price?  How long does an item stay new?  Are all items currently shown new?  What the heck is prime classic?  Is a classic item new or old?  What does it cost?"

From what I understand, the prime products with the blue banner are permanently in the prime category at the prime price. The prime products with the red banner (prime classics) are older products that once added to the prime category will be $3.50 like the rest of the prime products, but only be there at that price for about a month and then return to their original price.

"How does one get the PRIME price?  Do you have to buy prime, then go back in and shop for prime items?  Will the shopping cart know you're a prime member, and charge the $3.50 price?"

Yes, buy the prime membership and once an admin activates your membership (should be soon) you would then see the prime price reflected in your cart.*

"Is every prime item $3.50 for members?  This seems to be implied, but it's not clear to me."

Yes, all prime products are $3.50...the prime classics will go back to their normal price after about a month.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this!