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Well, RagingWolf you can find the basic contract and submission guidelines at the supplied link. As to your questioning if products have to work before they're accepted, yes they do and testing is done to ensure that is the case, the guidelines specifically state: {{Uploaded files will be previewed by the staff before being made generally available to the public to ensure they actually deliver what is promised and include the license.html file.}} Even though there are items you personally would not pay for, that does not mean others won't. Whether or not you would pay for them has nothing to do with their quality. Last I heard a test to see if RagingWolf would purchase them was not a standard quality test needed for any submitted items. The point is, the merchandise being sold actually "works" and is useful to those that purchase it. Items that don't sell, for whatever reason, don't stay in the store. It's easy to generalize, and it's easy to label something as poor quality just because you don't happen to like it or think it's worth buying. The fact is, if mechandise where not living up to it's promises, or was of poor quality, there would be complaints about those items posted on this site and others. Fact is, complaints about Victoria, sold by Zygote have frequently been posted...complaints about merchanise purchased from this online store are extremely rare. That, more than anything else, says that items purchased from this store are quality items, that work the way they were promised to work, and that Renderosity is doing the proper testing and quality assurance.

It's interesting to note, that upon reviewing 113 posts in the Store Contact Forum, I could not find 1 post complaining about the quality of any purchased item. Most of the posts had to do with download problems and there were a few referring to missing items in zips, and those were handled quickly and to the satisfaction of those that posted. Download problems are a not unusual on the internet and the store contacts and sellers seem to go to great lengths to help people solve those problems. Missing files from zips is somewhat of a quality issue, and more care needs to be given to ensuring that all files are present before an item is posted...but this is such a small percentage when compared to the tremendous number of items available from the store that it is not all alarming. To note: again the store contacts and sellers go to great length to resolve these problems quickly and to the satisfaction of the purchaser. It would seem to me that those making blanket statements about the poor quality and usability of items in the store are basing those statements on assumptions and not on facts.

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1. Great Idea! by Thorne on 01/19 07:57 That's a great idea! But whatever happens, and no offense to anyone, just callin' 'em like I see 'em, DO NOT become like that other site with a similar name which has turned into "everything gonna cost you"- No more free links there, gotta be in the webring, which if you do not refer enough people to the homesite might just drop you altogether. And, "Here's a NEW service! Free for now, gonna cost ya later!" And flooding their store with quite frankly second-rate merchandise because everybody got something to sell and what do they care, a bad modeler's 50% is as good as any actually GOOD modeler's 50%.... That's my 50% worth. =};-}> 36. Re: WHERE RENDEROTICA STANDS RIGHT NOW... by DTHUREGRIF on 01/19 14:03 We're REALLY trying to avoid that, Thorne. And I'm glad somebody said something about the quality of the stuff in the store over "there". It's getting really bad. But like you said, "what do they care?" They don't test that stuff before they put it up from what I hear (from reputable sources), and it looks like they will accept anything. Even JeffH (their staunchest supporter) made a comment that most of it belongs in free stuff. :-) I just hope that people aren't really buying that stuff. Not that there isn't some terrific stuff there, it's just getting buried. 37. YOU ARE RIGHT THORNE!!!!!!! THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT!!!!! by Jack D. Kammerer on 01/19 14:29 Thorne, You are absolutely right! Back when I opened the online store over there, a very dear woman by the name of RenaPD once suggested if the store wasn't monitored that it would become a trashy place. I wish she could read this(she don't come to Renderotica) but she was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!! None of those products in that store are tested by anyone, before being made available to the consumer... it's BUYER BEWARE... spend your money and hope you don't get fucked. In fact, because of the lack of monitoring that goes on there, I have seen some product put up by members trying to sell other people's work and then it becomes the responsiblity of the person's who's product is sold without permission, has to contact Renderosity, THEN it get's pulled down.... Another thing you pointed out, Thorne, the value of the stuff there has turned to shit... looks like a dumping ground over there, which not only make's Renderosity look like money grubbing bastards (not saying if they are or not), but also seriously makes other RESPECTABLE Brokered Artist's stuff look shitty... for example, sit at a dinner table, and on a plate in front of you is a nice, juicy steak sitting in front of you prepared by... let's say you, or maybe Syyd or another respectable artist who provide quality... and on a plate next to you is a plate of SHIT prepared by a less experienced cook, or in this case a modeller. NO MATTER how hungery you are for that steak, you just aren't going to eat it, at least not from a resturant that also serves a plate full of steaming shit... What I am trying to say is this... the qaulity of stuff over there, is about 75-90% shit. Why? Because they don't take time to monitor it, test it to make sure it works or is even HALFWAY DECENT and because anyone can take a DUMP over there, slap it on a plate and sell it to the Community. And for that reason, it takes money from those that DO SPEND TIME BUSTING THEIR ASSES TO MAKE THE BEST PRODUCTS POSSIBLE!! Sure, Product gets to that store faster than ours... ah, but once you buy it from there are you sure it's going to work?? Personally, if I wanted to purchase something, I would go to a place that took time to make sure it worked and was worth the value asked for it. Rather from people that didn't care about anything other than lining their pockets... Just my thoughts as a consumer... and business person... Jack

Renapd, most of us in the Poser community have enjoyed your work for many years now. You have made much more than your share of free items for existing free models and props...I think it's grand that you devote some time to items people have to purchase too, after all, they deserve the joy and usefulness of Renapd textures too. I have never had difficulty uderstanding that something item at Fairy Woods requires a separately purchased character or prop, and although I may drool and wish I could use it on Posette or Poserguy...I smile knowing that I have many items made by Renapd that are just as dazzling, and that there will be more coming. Some people can't distinguish between what is offered from goodness and what is deserved. There will always be people like that, that cry sour grapes with no thought for what a treasure they've received. Don't let those few disturb you. Thank you Rena for all the treasures you have given us out of your love for Poser and the Poser Community.

Here's a trick supplied to me by Codeman 3D...Hope it helps. Save the figure to the library. This will give you file1.cr2 and file1.rsr Then render an image, export the image to a .jpg file. Import the image as a background...move the camera off the figure. Save to the library under a new name which will give you newname.cr2 and newname.rst. Delete the newname.cr2 and the file1.rsr from the directory under Libraries. Rename newname.rsr to file1.rsr and voila, when you reopen the library...the rendered image for the figure will be there instead of the usual drab image created by Poser.

There is a way to put a unique ID in a model that will not go away when it is converted to another format. Simply attach a very small group of vertices in a distinct pattern in an obscure area of the model (for example, in the toe). Under normal magnification it will appear to be a single point, but when zoomed, the pattern will be obvious. If you didn't want a pattern, you could even do your name in vertices. It would add more bulk to the models size, but it is an elegant way to "watermark" a model. If Renderosity would be willing to keep an archive of patterns, it would even be possible to "register" them. Of course they would have to be sure your pattern does not match any submitted to approve the "registration" and they would either have to not give anyone access to the archive or password protect each individual "registered patterns".