How are you going to get away with using the "Hummer" name? No one has yet trademarked it for 3D Models or Digital Content as far as I know, and it's not using any artwork on a logo that would be a copyright violation. I could be wrong. It might be that someone has trademarked the name 'hummer' for 3D Models. I'm sure it's trademarked for a lot more than just automobiles. Sanctum, you'll want to look that up on TESS or something ahead of time.

got an inner nose fetish? Oh baby, faster, faster, I'm going to sneeze!

We use the placement of the items as you have them, but can assign different names or characteristics to them Right-o. The book can be titled whatever you feel like, the author's name whomever you like, whatever fonts you choose, and so on, but everything has to conform to the layout. Also feel free to leave parts greek -- for instance, there's no real need to write copy for the back. as greek text will do fine and the focus is on the art, not the writing B^) I double-checked the wrap template (I loaded it into Photoshop directly from this webpage so there were no version mistakes possible, copied the layer and flipped it horizontally, then reduced the opacity to 50%). It's absolutely symmetrical; it's just an optical illusion. Each cover face is approx 1.65 and the spine is approx 6.29. The total aspect is about 0.73. Aspects listed are for width as proportional to height. Your image can be scaled to any size Renderosity will support provided it meets the aspect ratio requirements and layout needs.

Danke Sch:on.

did you know trhere was a Work in Progress Gallery Yup. It's the one I post to most often, since I won't put an unfinished thing intheProduct Showcase or Poser forum. Again, I'm fine with the idea of fair and even speration where all works in progress, price tag or not, will be put in a single loction. And that would get even more of the flooding WIPs out of this forum. Now, there's something else I'm wondering here... this concept spreads beyond just this forum. There are other forums which it's questionable how or what sort of things should go in them along these lines. For instance, There's a Max forum. I make all my stuff in Max. Should I or should I not post things related to the things I'm building in the Max forum? A lot of the time when I make things I'm trying to go for a specific character appearance. Should I or should I not post things related to the character or costume or figure I'm developing to the Character Creators forum? Of course, it should be fine for me to post things that I'm planning on selling here to the Merchants' forum. To claim that merchandise was off topic in the merchants' forum would be silly. Do we make such a silly claim? Finally, there's a Wishing Well forum. Am I allowed to say 'I wish there were samurai armour for Mike 3 -- Oh, wait, here's some!' in there? 2/3 of the posts in there deal with things for sale, after all. Yes, I think a WIP forum would be our best bet. Despite people havng a nagative repsonse to the idea, I do still affirm that deciding whether something is an ad or not being based on whether the person in question plans to sell it eventually is unfair and shows prejudice. If I show a picture of a hamburger, it may make you hungry or revolted, it may make you want a hamburger, and so on. Unless I tell you it's a Wendy's double stack for ninety nine cents, I haven't advertised it because you know nothing about where to buy it, how much it will be, or anything. It may be marketing. I won't deny it can be considered marketing, but advertising is only a subset or marketing, which involves lots of other things like market research ('what kind of things do you al want to see for Mike 3?'), intercorporate activities ('how far have we come in the last year?'), and even creating a public image that people will remember in some way. What? Yeah, every time a merchant posts anything however unrelated in this forum at all they are marketing. Not advertising, but marketing, for better or for worse (and usually for better). Every post I make comes with a link to my artist page with the top three products from my store that I want to sell shown on it. The more of a friend or nuisance I make of myself, the more likely someone is to follow that link and then they might just think 'Oooh, a Robot!' Every time any merchant posts a 'how to do this' or answers a 'how do I do this?' question they are selling themselves with a 'Go see my stuff, I am good at this'. Assuming they are right. Hell, even showing personality in this forum counts as marketing of a sort. Microsoft and Intel want you to think they are family-friendly politically correct companies, so every time you reinstall their crap operating system you get to see people of African descent with their grandchildren, pretty Asian girls looking like corporate higher-ups, and so on and so forth, and that's on purpose not to sell you the crap operating system which you alreadyhave (and presumably, since you're reinstalling for the 47th time, are already fed up with), but to make you think 'gee, they aren't a bunch of friendless, coldhearted cutthroat bigots'. Me, I have a sort of reputation for being like the Harlan Ellison of the Poser world. Unable and unwilling to keep my mouth shut when I feel injustice has occured, unswerving dedication to my art, and an unwillingness to sacrifice quality for sales and speed. An ornery two-fisted loudmouth who's nonetheless good at what he does and gets away with it because of that. Impossible to work with but perfect to drink with as long as you don't mind a little bit of trouble. And far too honest for most people's comfort, which is seen as tactless by half and admirably succinct by the other half. Harlan Ellison, right? Something like that anyway. And even that, though it's not any sort of an intentional construal of myself, is marketing ebcause it creates a persona (be that persona truth or glamour) that people identify with or react to which creates publicity and notice. Saying that a merchant can't do anythg that is in any way marketing in here means you have to ban them from posting.

House Mouse will reevaluate his life Urr, he doesn't wanna sell you death sticks... Hey, Spit, I'm good for more than glowing stuff! I'm apparently rather good at lamellar, too! B^)

Oooonce there was this kiiid who Got into an accident and ... Oh, oops, thought it was a singalong B^) Looks nice. How's it render in Poser? Don't forget to give it a reflection map to get a nice paintjob out of it. Use a landscape, not smeary grey!

I have a small suggestion... Call it a Hag or a Crone or Annis or something. The whole 'witch' thing is really kind of offensive. I mean, think of the reaction you would get if you called her a 'Jew' character, for instance. Lord and Lady, when are people going to stop associating my reliion with old green women who eat children?

I have no problem with a WIP forum. That would not be segregation, just seperation, which is different. Having a WIP forum for all WIPs regardless of intended price tag, if any, would seperate on the basis of content, not segregate on the basis of economic intent. Kate, I understand your point completely. I'm not in favour of ads in here, either. I think we're not seeing eye to eye on what an ad is, however. I think that if a work in progress is shown without any marketing, without any 'see this soon at DAZ/RDNA/RMP/3DCommune/Renderotica/3DCC/PoserPros/whateverosity' rubbish or 'Only $12.99, due to be releaased soon!' or any fo that crap... if such a WIP is done AS a WIP and not as a marketing ploy (it doesn't take Einstein to figure out the difference), then it's not an ad. I posted a WIP of my M3 Samurai in here, and along with all the other people who posted WIPs, some of which were blatantly or subtly ads, many of which were not, we all got the big hook from stage left for it, either literally or at least figuratively. That was bullshit. Sure, the ones that were blatantly ads should have been moved, though again the product showcase, which showcases products that are for sale and complete, is not really the right forum for a WIP either, however commercial-sounding... still... You see on TV all the time where entertainment news covers the making of a movie in progress. There are commercials between bits of the shows. The shows are not infomercials. The movie will not be free when it comes out, and if they're covering it at all will probably make a fair amount of money, but it's still not an ad. It's coverage. Sure, the filmmakers rarely complain, and it is publicity and no one will deny that, but it's also not just a big long trailer for the movie. Not that when they do this if the trailer is out on TV it's usually played during the bit, as a commercial. Seperately. Anyway... Illusions, I can still see right up your nose. Might want to adjust the xrot forward a little bit on that.

assuming you imbibed in the first place No, afraid you'll have to imbibe in th first place. 'll imbibe in the second place. If you have a head start I have a better chance B^) I was just agreeing with you, really. See, my goal isn't to get off-topic posts moved out completely, it's to have such posts be treated fairly -- and I'm coming from a point of view where I don't see any of the above as really being off-topic, because it's a cascade. Poser Tech is a subcategory of Poser. Product Showcase isn't, but most of the content is. A dissertation on reflection maps or a rant at Poser in general about why it will allow me to load two props from a figureResFile/geomHandlerGeom style load, but it won't save them to a file properly afterwards (just hit that one, grr), to me, is certainly Poser content. A show-off of one's latest costume for a Millenium Person is also Poser content. For sale or not. And, as much as I hate to admit it, that creepy looking toonimal fish is also poser content. I think it should all be welcome or, if sorting is gonna be mandatory, then it should all be pigeonholed.

Some things that might make a difference, at least in concept (I'm not suggesting that all or any of these be done, but they are simply thoughts): 1) Require a tag for anything that is advertising. Even if the coders don't want to implement a change to the forum, make it a requirement that any subjects advertising anything at all begin with '[AD]' in the subject line. Likewise '[TS]' ('Tech Support'), '[TT]' ('Tech Tips' or' Too Technical') and '[OT]' tags could be mandatory and threads which contain said content and do not have them can be deleted or modified to have them as need be. You could even stack the tags -- for instance, if I were to post a picture of my Samurai Armour WIP and explain how I did the faux-bumpiness that actually wraps around instead of going flat on the edge, I would begin the subject with '[AD][TT]'. 2) Implement ignore-by-user capability. This has been a big suggestion here by me anyway. Make it so you can ignore an individual -- any threads they start will be hidden and any messages in other threads will be marked 'Ignored' and not displayed. Not only would this help stop a lot of flamewars when people who consistently piss other people off can be shunned on an individual basis, but if someone flooded the Pose forum with lots of ads, you could ignore them and never see their posts rather than punishing an entire socioeconomic class. 3) Simply make the rule that no one is allowed to mention price and/or location of sale of any WIP that is intended to be sold. People could ask, but responses would have to be IMs as you could not post the answer. This way I could very simply post my M3 Samurai and not say a word that it was going to be for sale at DAZ or that it was going to cost however much. Note that in my posts I don't believe I did that (if I did it was in response to a question). I'm not going back to check right now, but this is further underscored by the fact that Clint actually IMed me asking where I was planning to sell it, and I had to tell him that by contract I had to offer it to DAZ first, and that I thought it was likely to go in there.