yeah each butterfly has wing morphs so they flap up and down as well as close.

you can load one at a time or a cluster of them as well.

They are not designed for close up/Macro rendering but if you just want them as filler for a scene they work well :D

Sounds interesting.

If you like butterflies as well I have some in the marketplace.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/beautiful-butterflies/91399

They are poseable props as well not background images.

Thank you for featuring my work.. Some really great images here :D

Ok thanks for all of your help everyone :D

I have it working now by using MistyLaraPrincess's Idea of using internal morph Data.

I will still look into making it with external as well as I am now curious as to what I was doing wrong.

What is everyones view on external Vs internal morph data? is there a clear advantage of either? I have read that using external means you can use the morphs on other figures e.g. A3 and V3(but they dont usually look right) If that is the only advantage then that is not worth it for this item.

I understand..I have a script that strips the Obj from the PP2 so i will try that :)

@nruddock.. is it a requirement of Renderosity Marketplace to have the PP2 reference an obj?

@MistyLaraPrincess.. You mean you would prefer to buy a product without the PMD file? I guess to turn PMD off you uncheck external binary morph targets in preferences??

I will give that a try and see if I can then reference the obj.

Thank for your input.

I would prefer if I could refernce the .obj for the reason BagginsBill gave.. it would (I presume) save resources/memory to use the obj.

thnks!! i didnt know your vss did that.. i have that but i dont really know how to use it.. i will have to read up on it a bit :)

Im on vista basic. Poser 8, and i have saved it to the hands folder in poser. When i check the hands foder in the runtime, the folder the file was saved in is there, but not the file.

Is there anyway to find it if it is a vista virtual store??

Thanks for your reply

thank you very much for the tips :) ill try and keep that  in mind. :D

Ill let you know how i get on

wow, thats very very cool!! i really wouldnt have the patience for that one hehe :D have you tried the DAZ studio figure setup tools at all? im wondering if that is any easier?

This really does seem to have me beat hehe

oh man this rigging is hard.. i have tried a few different methods now, used the heirarchy editor, creating a PHI file and using the setup room.

I dont think it is my area of expertise hehe.

I think this is going to take me a very long time :(

Thanks for the link, i hadnt realised hehad done the vids on joint parameters, i had seen the others though. :D ill give that a go :D

do you have any ideas on what groups to give him, i mean he doesnt really have a hip, chest torso etc. layout.?

do you think just giving him Torso, Arm, forearm, hand, fingers, ---thigh, leg, ankle, foot, toes.. souns good??

heres the textured pic :D

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1909687

hey guys, i am now at the stage where i want to rig mike now.. i have textured him.. i still need to fix some seams but he looks ok for now, i only want to render the fron ATM..

Im wishing i carried on modelling in the original pose because im having major trouble rigging him.

Ive never succesfully rigged anything before and the only program i have with rigging is Poser.

I have follwed some tutorials on rigging and i keep getting the same problems.. once the bones are in and i return to the pose room in poser i move the arm and the legs and body are affected and go all over the place..

I have been grouping him in Silo but i don know whats going on. anyone have an idea?

Im just rendering the textured version and will post him soon