The vue render engine is as fast as others that I have evaluated. If you have multi processors you will increase performance as Vue is multi-threaded. RenderCow's Net Render can dramatically increase you render times. You should consider using Final as your render setting of choice to increase the speed, unless you are in need of motion blurring. Consider using motion blurring in segments where it counts and turn it off at times that it won't matter. In the end... Size "does" matter (with render times that is). : P

Sacred Rose is right. That would be the best way to achieve your effect. You can use the image for the texture and for the bump function. Just make sure your gain is set very low so it doesn't create canyons instead of a brushed look. : )

You need to add a bump map using the function editor in order to get a No. 4 mill finish, ie. brushed stainless steel.

I'm going to try this week and post my results.

I have a deadline on Tuesday. Hope it works : |

Lynn,

I have posted some of my problems on the e-on support website and had discussions via that medium with Steve Bell. However, they ususually end up without actually resolving the issues and e-on is unable to repeat the error. I think wabe is right that we are working on much larger and complex scenes which must be pushing Vue to it's limits.

BTW I hope e-on is testing on more current systems and versions of the OS X (ie. 10.2x) a G3 Beige running 10.1 is not the same animal.

Wabe,

I understand and agree that Vue is new to the Mac and I am trying to give feedback to e-on in order to make the app better. My frustration is that I am now having to look at other software to get my work done, and I don't want to use another app. I like Vue because, in my opinion, it's the best to make great scenes for architecture. Vue's abilities are incredible and network rendering for animations makes it even more powerful. Quite frankly, I don't know why e-on isn't charging more for their product.

With that said... I really wanted to see if others were having the same problems and get a discussion going to solve the issues. The more feedback we give to e-on the better the product and (I think), the better e-on will be able to do their part.

Thanks again to all, more suggestions are welcome.

Tom

wabe,

the large files I'm having trouble with are around 1.5 to 2.7 million polygons. However this doesn't explain how with only one object (a sphere) opening the material editor, then opening the function editor and the third operation vue crashes. the poly count in a file with a ground plane and a sphere is quite low. I will conceed that the larger files are more unstable, but isn't that unacceptable for non beta software? Have any of you reported these issues to e-on for correction? If not I think we OS Xers need to do so in order to clean up the bugginess.

BTW I have also noticed a bug with the hypervue dialogue. You can't see more than 14 computer IP's added and there is no way to resize or scroll the dialogue.

runwolf,

I will try replacing my vue.env file to see if that works. Let me run through that so I understand. I rreplace the vue.env with a fresh "original vue.env" file each time I create a new scene? Can I do that before I try to launch on of my existing scenes to correct the issue?

Thanks to all for your help.
Tom

As I stated in my title my platform is Mac OS X. I'm running 10.2.5 it doesn't matter what computer system because I've tried it on a G4 Cube 450 MHz processor, a G4 Dual 867 MHz processor tower, and a G4 Dual 1.25 GHz processor tower with the same results. I'm using Vue 4.12 with Mover 4. I've tried it with and without Open GL, and I get the same results.

Many times the applictation will freeze and I have to "Force Quit" (Vue is in red). and some times I relaunch Vue and the default screen doesn't show up and when I try to open a scene through the menu the dialoge box is blank and all the standard scene previews are missing and my personal scenes are missing. In addition many of the interface features don't work, so I end up reinstalling from the CD and following up with the full update.

Granted I am creating some very large scenes, but I expect Vue should handle it. At least e-on says it should in the manual.

Try looking at this thread for an example of my most persistant problem.

http://www.e-onsoftware.com/Support/ShowMessage.php?id=1051031530&stage=-1&chooseCategoryPage=&categoryName=&category=&subCategory=&superCategory=

You got it Baby!

Vue impresses me more and more every day. The deeper you get into it the better it gets. The material and function editors have no limit to what you can do, and it's easy to do.

"Yes, Renderosity has my permission to use my artwork from my art gallery for promotional use only".

I'd love to try fly fishing at that spot. Great image! That image reminds me alot of northern Illinois or Southern Wisconsin where I grew up. Thanks for taking me down memory lane.

A word of cauton regarding rendering one frame and estimating based on that frames render time. You need to consider the complexity of different frames as you move closer to objects as the render may require more calcualtions to get the job done. The further away you are the faster the render. As-well-as many other things affect the render times.

I've rendered images up to 18" x 24" at 300 dpi by rendering to disk. Rendered at the "ultra" setting it takes a few days, but I've had no problems. Just make sure you select "render to disk".

Different speed processors should not make a difference, as each computer renders it's own frame and then sends it back to the host computer when its finished.

I know that that doesn't really solve the issue, but I hope you're able to narrow it down.

I would suggest rendering to a .tif file as TIFF files retain transparancy. This may help. If it doesn't work then you really know there is a potential bug that needs fixing.

I have never experienced this problem with my renders by saving as an image sequence to .tif, but I have not been using poser figures with complex hair textures. However, I do use alot of transparancies in my architecture models.

I just rendered a scene with Vue 4 and Mover 4 that was 320x800 aspect ratio at 72 dpi. It was 75 seconds long at 30 fps which totaled 2,250 frames. I typically save the animation as a .TIF image sequence and then import the image sequence into quicktime pro. The final movie size was 930 MB. Network rendering is the only way to go if you have the machines. I used 12 dual 768 MHZ G4 Mac's and it took 9.5 hrs. to complete.

The scene had to be completed over a weekend so I kept the scene scematic in nature by making the building translucent and the landscape was simple. It was quite successful.