Thanks! Looks like I'm either stuck rendering in Poser or making my hair outside of Poser like I do now.

If Deep Paint alters the geometry does anyone know if other 3D paint apps do as well? I'm looking at getting BodyPaint 3D but would be hesitant at spending $600 if it also changed geometry. Steve - I echo Dmentia's comments! UV Mapper gets more amazing everytime I use it and discover new ways of doing things. I hear that a UV Mapper Pro is in the works. What's the scoop on that, and what new functionality will it have? Axe

One cool dude! ;)

Thanks guys. I went and d/l'd PHI Factory 1.2 and I'll give it a shot. I also got a good tut from: http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/tyrell/769/poser.html that looks like it might be of great help. When I get these working properly, all of you who helped better be prepared to receive your free pair! Axe

Thanks Bloodsong. This sounds like it'll do the trick. Only one thing... How do I create the rope as a figure, not a prop? Everytime I import an .obj it automatically becomes a prop. I must be missing something really obvious....... Axe

I've tried the joint editor, but it doesn't seem to quite fit the bill. I can set up the centres for each link and the parents, but it still moves as a unit if I drag one end. If I use "point at" at the other end it only partially solves the problem, the last link bends, but the rest of the chain stays straight. I'm still pretty sure IK will solve it, but now when I try to create a new chain, I can't drag any props into the chain. Seems to accept body parts, but not props. Is this normal and is there a way around it? Thanks yet again, Axe

That tut sounds ideal, but I've checked both CD's that came with poser and the manual (yes, I've RTFM many times!), but don't see it. Maybe I'm blind..... I played around a little more and think I can probably set up the IK chain now (I never got the little "create new IK chain" box to light up until just now). I tried the point at method with individual links and get some weird rotations happening. Maybe this could be refined further. I'll let you know how it goes..... Thanks again, Axe