@Afrodite-Ohki

I see you getting better in Blender :) did you model that little cutie ?

Winter is coming

allot of people in 3D are going to decide weather it is worth to invest so much time and Cash in Poser or Daz Studio or rather start up right away with these mew Programs also Unreal engine is free if you do not make a high profit out of it. Blender is Free, all this is sure going to cause large changes. well if Bondware does not start to think about there marketing strategy it is going to be a Dead End as for every Poser user that jumps off they will never look back :)

@ parkdalegardener

Well that is the issue with all this marketing process, sure if you do not make your 200$ it is not worth making any assets, but lets say you make it to cover the costs of Poser with one asset that you made in the trial time you actually would have to make 400$ as Rendo and others will take half of the gain for brokarage, so Rendo already earned with your Trial creation 200$ and now you are all happy and give the other 200$ to rendo to have poser so you can create more that you sell and each time they will earn half of your gain. so what Davo might of saying was to ask for a little fairness from the store. The Creator Artist he earns only for each thing he made but the brokering earns cumulative for each and every creation without having to spend weeks month of hard work, just for a little hosting space !

Where do you think all the Cash comes from to Buy Poser rights ? where do you think al the Free stuff comes from that comes along with Poser .. Hey almost 1000$ worth freebies, it comes from generous people "Not Renderosity" ! But comes the Day that a vendor would ask for anything they will get the big boot into there Ass.

@ Y-Phil

Actually Poser is not dying for the ones that started up a collection the past decades, allot have gathered huge collections throughout the years, these will keep it running. Fact is that since August 2019 being a content creator you will notice that there has been a decreasing interest for content of about 70 - 80 % Whilst Smith micro was in Possession of Poser there was a steady increase, slow but steady ! After the change it went down to 50% within end of 2019 not that the content is getting worse it even Improved but the Interest keeps on decreasing , It is for sure not that the users started to make there own stuff. Actually there should of been an increase.

As for the old users that have there collections well these will run there old Poser versions until not supported any longer and just use the content they gathered, not adding allot of new stuff to it. this will naturally result that Content creators will not continue to provide new content for Poser. But still the ones who have it will at least find some time to use the content they bought and never played with as of floods of content at the time.

Same thing for me. I Provide content for Poser, well not for a living , just because I need to do it my self if I want new stuff so I share these. But considering a creation I work at 1 week I might earn a 20 - 50 $ for it without a broker if there were a broker it would just be Half the other half would fall in there hands !

@ EClark1894

I think the Point Davo brought out is Important to keep Poser running at least for the content creators it is. Renderosity just fallows the Smith micro Marketing by letting that call home feature on, then actually just targeting with many updates integrating the Rendo store into it, meanwhile all walk away!

Wolf is having good Points at least for the ones who have the capabilities of using other 3D software and not just Poser , actually Poser depends on these Other 3D software Programms to generate content. Poser it self is just a Platform to present what has been created with other software.

Sure at the end it is a waste of time spending hours in these Poser forums looking for a solution as Rendo does not really care about it and for creators Like Davo or me it is just a question of time on how long Poser could be supported with new content.

See the owners here most of the Rendo workers are not even capable of using Poser in a deasent way Presenting great Renders as far as I have seen until now !

@ Wolf You having good Points and they are very true, sort of if you have time and motivations with some skills all these of you mentioned Programms are outstanding. but there is the other side, the ones who do not have all this time, not having the Skills and the learning New ones, that is where Poser might be the option to offer a startup into 3D. Starting off with Blender that is a very heavy step for sure :) and most will give up already after the first Launch of Blender. That is where Poser comes in or Daz there a little like a PC Game setting up your Provided Characters " Remember Oblivion " For most it is even not more then just a collection of nice things giving them the Impression of being Creative. Most Poser users do not really want to go deep into the 3D creation universe they just want there Barbies with the clothes that come with them not more. As for the minority would be the ones who provide these addons for the ones who just want to create a little 3D universe. Like a Game just setting up your Characters it is also the main reason why Poser DS survived all these years.

The point is naturally if Bondware continues that way then Poser will just Vanish just like an old Game but Blender Iclone or Metahumans will not really be a replacement for it , these users will then rather buy a PS5 console and build up there little 3D worlds in there. As Majority of Poser users never had in mid to be 3D creators they just want to pass some relaxed moments setting up provided stuff after there hard working Day. Or even for some it might be a kind of social company replacing there lonleyness.

I have to give Davo Right ... If Poser would be free ( Like it was already proposed many times ) at least the Poser 11 versions down it would sure in first hand attract customers and users. they would download and install it on there machine, this would be the first Act. then they would start to use it, causing them to look for content this is the second Act. The third would be that it would generate new Customers, new Collectors, new Creators. Not that they have to be the old ones coming back I mean New ones.

The big difference between Rendo Bondware and others like Daz ... Blender... IClone... Metahuman is that " Renderosity is just a Broker just selling what they get from Creators for a Fee " all others have Developers teams on their Loan list that Provide own 3D content to Improve there Software. Se Daz they develop since Decades new Base Figures. Renderosity Lived and kept them selves alive with these Content Developers. So concerning LA and LM there would be a long way to go to have success without a experienced 3D Developer Team. In Fact Renderosity is and will remain just a Brokerage!

So what Davo was mentioning sure would be the best solution to have Poser for free as if Renderosity does not want to have a development section for 3Dthey will need to attract new Creators that are willing to offer New content for Poser.

Btw : Even Smith Micro had there Content Developers Providing a whole bunch of New Figures that came along with new Poser releases, What I am saying is Rendo just took stuff offered by there Sellers to add as Free offer into there new release so actually not a official Part of there New release. Just aother Brokerage.

Now seriously , do you really think they care about it, they are Brokers, if one thing does not work they just jump on the next thing they can put into the store. even if one day they just sell addons for IClone or Metahuman, at the end it is up to the creators or Vendors to decide for what software they wish to produce the models for !

Poser Sales are almost dead no matter how good the product might be, no matter how cheap you sell your hard work, you already realize it on the handfull active members in the Poser forums ! I still say that keeping that call home system and then blaming it on Smith micro , shutting down older poser versions Blaming smith micro but still continuing with this system just caused a big Los of Trust !

Bondware Failed already after August 2019 and did not show any Interests supporting any Creators, Vendors , or Customers especially if there not on there exclusive Profit list ! the Call home feature does it also not make it any better. Creations are getting more difficult as of the loss of many Pyton Plugins in the new version. As long as they will fallow this Marketing strategy they will lose more and more experienced Creators. things already look like at Content Paradise in here, it is as if they turned back the clock for decades falling back to poser 4 quality when looking at the latest Poser releases. Not because it would not have the potential but because they lost all great creators on DS.

I have allot of respect for your Creations "Davo" you are one of the few old ones that still try to support poser with great Quality products, and probably also one of the few that keeps poser alive. I even buy your poser Versions just to offer some motivations even that I do not use them.

Also Possible by setting up Hyper-V Virtual machines you do not loose the setup each time you close it :)

is that the Call home server ? "api.posersoftware.com"

Bad if it would give such an Alarm :)

these call home and connected Programms are always an issue and sure could work as scammers or even worse so Norton might be right making you aware of it ....

Cool Sammers Video giving them a Bumerang you can only Imagine what a Hacker can do with such connections with just a little experience

RUSSIAN HACKER VS INDIAN SCAMMER

Actually nothing really new the drag and drop in the material room , was already a feature in P11 not Replacing but making a new Node but if you ever used one of the Pyton Advanced material rooms then you should know it was a common thing to place or replace your maps using drag and drop in existing nodes . Pity that these will not work with P12 :) but integrating it into Poser 12 it at least will make it possible again.

Scroll down on the download Page ! like I said a version above 11.3 will get locked. Take the Version

Macromedia Flash Player 11.3.300.265

Prior to 268 and it will work just fine :) Version 268 Up are locked by Windows but Versions 265 and Prior will all work just fine

I guess that SM already realized that upgrading to Pyton 3.7 would mean a Downgrade for Poser due the loss of a decade of Pyton scripts meant to support the Poser users and creators. It does not mean that New is better " New " in the Industry just represents a Income. We all know that In New there is often a quality loss.

People are like this , You been told it is New and you believe it is better , you take it without even the consideration that your old might be good enough by just obeying on the acts of the Industrials weather justified or not , weather right or not .

It is always Placed this way ! There was no Choice ! All the Poser users had no choice as the activations got killed, Bondware Had a choice and took the decision to hit the switch. It is easy to blame others for your acts but does it make it right that all who bought Poser 11.1 Poser game Dev just got turned Off even that we Payed for it ?

Like I said People just believe in what is told, even apple could shut down all I-Pones in the whole World by hitting an Enter Key. And no one would say a word about it .