THANK YOU, MASON! I am now comfortable, and clear on how this all works!! I really appreciate it!!!!!

Hi Mason, Okay now I am confused... you said: __________________________ The thing about cr2s is you could "steal" a character obj anyway. All it would take is for you use the group tool, group the whole figure, add them to a group then save the cr2. The cr2 would then contain the entire obj data. ____________________________ But how could you "use the group tool" if you don't have the original obj that allows you to OPEN the cr2 figure in the first place? If you try to open a library character cr2 in poser without the original obj in your geometries, Poser will crash or lock up! Perhaps the best way to share custom figures here at Renderosity now, is with a pz3 file? (if it is still called that... I mean where you do a "save as" in poser, and save the whole "scene") ? I would think that both Renderosity and all of it's users would be VERY concerned and want to know how to "do the right thing" so we all can still enjoy sharing, even with all these new versions of Poser... Thanks for answering me, and being patient with my confsion and questions!

BIG Question, Mason! (and Curious Labs!) If making a custom figure creates a new obj for it, that then has to be provided for it to work, then isn't that ILLEGAL??? We cannot share zygote's or Curious Labs obj's!!! It has been known for a long time, that if we make custom figures, then sharing ONLY the good old cr2 is the legal way to go....

Thanks, but you didn't really reply to the issues I was asking about.. (I do not have Max, and am not concerned with using poser in Max or Lightwave). I AM CONCERNED about all that I am reading in this thread, about figures being opened IN Poser, after the Pro Pack is installed! You called it "conforming figures", but the issues also seem to concern MORPHS & OTHER CUSTOMIZING of clothing, etc. From what I am hearing in various threads here, and on other forums, is that people can't use the P3 and P4 Fun Stuff figures once pro pack has been installed!??! I saw the pictures of the figures with HOLES in them in the other thread... How could Curious Labs not be AWARE of how Pro Pack treats these figures?? And if they were aware, why offer it to us before it is fixed?? I'm sorry, but after reading about all the bugs, I am feeling like we are being taken advantage of AGAIN, because Curious Labs needs some "cash up front" to FINSIH the program being offered! (this has happend way too often with Bryce and Poser!!!!!!!!!) I guess the moral of the story is WAIT and watch....

Something STINKS here! WHY would Curious Labs create a whole new format that excludes the easy use of P3 and P4, and even P4.3 custom figures??? Why do WE have to find the work around... and why didn't Steve answer the primary question of WHY the format is different? I would much rather have my Poser figures (regular and custom) take up space on my hard drive, and WORK PROPERLY and easily, than to have a whole new poser that is not backwards compatible! Why are we being forced to give up our creative sharing of custom figures and all the things that make Poser WORTH it, to use?? As far as I am concerned, I will sure HANG ON to BOTH my good old P3 and my separatly installed P4!!!!!!!! I am not technical minded, and I can not go through all those crazy things to try and get my "old" custom figures to work in this shoddy buggy Pro Pack!

Hmmm, well, I am going to HAVE to be brave and install patch..does this really "cure" the bugs of 4?? I still use my P3 which is HOOKED UP to my RDS5.2 WITH obj/poser patches..for all my morphing!! When I read of how Metacreations upgrades RDS & P4 do not "talk to each other"..all being different, AGAIN, I resolved to keep my P3 and RDS5.2 as my main "morphing-modeling" team..using P4 only for what I HAVE to...and I admit I am still learning.. P5? I am happy with what I have..still need to LEARN more about them.. I suppose if P5 comes out, and will DO IT ALL..even with ORIGINAL models.. it would be worth the money..if and when IT is a FINISHED version, and comes with many "user recommendations"...BUT I will always use good old poser THREE as my basic trusty version! heck, the OLD zygote animal CD figures work there..then zygote goes and changes the mesh of the same animals- like the frog- and the morphs made for the old frog do not work on the P4 frog.. CH CHING! Forced to buy 4... I feel taken advantage of! Sigh..this "rant" could go on forever..and I doubt any "companies" really care .. so I will stop now..having vented a bit to make myself feel better...

Well to be honest, I USE Poser THREE all the time..and only bought Poser 4 to have access to the P4 freebies that users generously post here!! I know there is a patch..but am reluctant to install this thing manually...SHeesh.. some patch!... Anyway I still want to assert my main CONCERN...(maybe zygote and new poser group will read this?) That us Poser THREE and 4 users will still have access to new models that will still work ..in 3 and 4?!!? I have bought a lot of zygote models over the years.. and if the model format changes..so that P3&4 will not read them..when the P FIVE comes out... then what!? Poser folks.. PLEASE do not do a "metacreations" on us..making new versions before the last ones are FINISHED...and please make new versions backward compatible!!!!

Well to be honest, I USE

I am new at this... where did my title go? I don't see how to edit.. anyway, the title of my santa sleigh image is: PRIORITIES!

Gosh, thank you all, for your compliments! I have finished the parrot zip for Steve at Poser World, so it will be there when he has time to post it! Cheers! Lyne

Thank you all for the compliments! (I'm Lyne, of the "moose morphs" -grin!). Deb's models are GREAT to work with, and I am so glad to be allowed to morph them! I have also done a raven from the zygote eagle, you will find it at Poser World. I PLAN on doing a parrot but another of Deb's models is "demanding" my attention first! OH! And the moose cr2 did not "carry over" the BODY dial settings, just the morph settings. I put the body parts dial settings in the moose readme, to help pull the caribou into the moose body. - Lyne