I have had renderings take up to six days at the default size in the Bryce 4 demo, that was on a Amd k6-2 500 with 64 meg of ram with a S3 trio 64 with 2mb video card on Win 95b. I have upgraded to 128meg and a 4meg 3d acelerator card. This improved renderings a bit but not enough. Renderings still takes hours for very simple scenes or days for more complex scenes. What sould be done is comparisons of different setups running the different versions of Bryce using the same scene file to give poeple an idea of what sort of system to aim for. Truspace 3se crashes on startup with the new video car (Aopen PT80 with SIS 6326 agp drivers) They had only 1 update driver that didn't make a difference. Using Nortons Crashguard to revive and continue Truspace 3se. Some of my early work using Truspace 2 & 3SE to make opjects and then Bryce 3D to render the scenes. http://communities.ninemsn.com.au/GalacticGraphics/homepage

Thanks for the tips, I do save the scenes and models. Does anyone know if there are any freeware programs that convert Truspace cob's into Bryce obp or a format that Bryce 3D can open. Formats that keep their meshes seperate like 3ds etc and not dxf that combine different colors into one so you have limited number of meshes to edit. (A warning if you use Win98 First edition, if your computer crashes during a rendering you loose your saved scenes and other file loaded or edited during that session. I lost a scene and other files and programs when W98a crashed.) Mark Askew markraskew@hotmail.com