I take it that you don't like Americans....LOL

Sorry, Got a little buned out...after Green Arrow, and the probls with that. Plus i have had to study for a test , So I hven't picked it up after that, but definately at the end of the month...

Thanks.... That is what I planned on doing...I am stepped back for a bit to re think the whole thing....Thanks for your help... When I get it right I'll post the results.. Web

Hey, First of all I'm not the quiting kind.... It may take me a while, but once I have it, I will have a greater understanding of the whole process in general. I knew that I would tackle this issue at one point or another. Part of the problem is that I don't have the usual programs that could make it a little easier. I have to find a work around that works for the OS and programs that I do have. Enough of my rantting. Bloodsong, Thanks for your words, and posible work around..I have tried what you have said before the last post.... I finally went to your site, man you are prolific artist I wish I could turn stuff out that quickly. the wory is very nice also. And to answer to your questions... First let me clarify (lack of sleep does wonders on the mind). the reasons that the back face didn't were gone was because I (not paying attention) didn't select the back faces when I grouped it in the first place... The laces were separate piece, not built in to the model, that could be changed. What seems to happen though, strangely enough, is if I leave the shoulder parts in; the collars, remain.. Weird. One thing that I didn't consider is that I made the model based on a body that was modified Should I have made it for a base body, then reshaped it along with the body... I'm trying to understand the correct procedure...Most tutorials don't address this point... My assumption is that they meke them for standard non-modified bodies. thanks for your help. Web

Yes I named the parts correctly, and they still disapear, of the times that I have created the figure, only once has it the correct look., I've tried it 20 ways to sunday, and still the same problem. And I don't use that one because it needs to be edited more. As for the laces, I took them out, because if i didn't and tried to create a figure the program would crash, so i add them in later as props. This is very frustrating to say the least. I've been up late (nearly to dawn) trying to solve this problem for going on 6 days... Thanks again guys.....

Thanks guys! One more question. Is it preferable to have the neck and shoulders with the model? -Web

Hi to you too! Yeah I know. I thought about that after put the post up so I put it in another post. (I had to show him off sorry...) I'm modeling the tunic in Animation Master, it was the first major thing that I tried to model. When you say plug it in what do you mean (don't mean to sound stupid) thanks again for your help

Thank You! I try to put some of thought into what I do, It takes more time, But the results.... I still would have liked to have done more, but some of the the more advanced poser stuff it still ahead of me... As for the boots, Yes and no, they are not like the boots that poser comes with, but when you attach a prop to a body part (n this case the foot) it receives those properties as well... The boots came from a Captian America posted on the 3DCC site, They were attached to a Ver. 3 Poser mode and after a little work, They were attached to Hawkeye. As for the arrows, they are some trick arrows, I still need to go back and tex map them... hope that answers your question. Web

Thank you for the Kind words, Well you beat to the punch for Deathstroke... And yes I will be submitting him soon; I need to finish some renderings and I will Be submitting a few characters.... ;) the bow was what i was refering too... It doesn't pull back/bend.... I can send it to you if you would like to tackle that... hint, hint I would love to have the chain mail, if you do not mind, Thanks... As for a certain Green Archer.... Are you a mind reader or what! I'm trying to decide on which version, I'm partial to the Golden Age my self... Web

Thank you for replying. I found the problem, and solution after i left the post.