Thank you all very much for your help. Somehow today I finally got the ctrl+alt to work and place a sun!! I have no idea why it wouldn't work last before, but all seems well now (cross your fingers for me that it keeps on working! ;-) I did also play with the azimuth and altitude settings and understand them a bit better, so this has all in all been a good lesson for me! Thanks again!

Thanks griffoso but for some reason the ctrl/alt thing doesn't work for me. I can't get either the sun nor the moon to appear by doing that, or anything else I've tried. Any other suggestions?

Excuse my stupidity...what is a Zyrincx model?

gps, Wish I had just talked to you earlier! Would have saved me a whole lot of trouble! I've been searching for her for a very long time!

Bingo! You were right...SVScan! Here is the model... http://www.theplace.ru/scans/gallery/svs/svs05.shtml Sigh! Now I'm VERY disappointed...I, and a few others, were sure she was a Poser model...and I REALLY wanted her to work with! I do thank all of you for your help in finding her at long last!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (And again, my sincere appologies to the forum for the nature of the photo...)

Ooops! Perhaps I should have cut the photo down before posting...she has clothes on down there so it never occurred to me that it might not be allowed. My sincere appologies to the forum if I stepped over the bounds here! ;-( Lyrra, I agree that the logs at the bottom right look very unreal, as does the hair. The model and the jeans looks so perfectly "right" that it seems odd that the hair looks so drab and dull and, well to be honest, "straw-like" and rather ugly. If someone gives a go at Vickie and comes up with anything like this, would they please let me know? I'd be VERY interested in seeing the results...

galactron, are you STILL looking at that picture?????? ;-) Quite striking isn't she?

No one told me it was a Poser model per se...but she looks too good to be real eh? I've contacted the site the picture was posted at, but they don't have the submitters name anymore. It was posted quite some time ago. I've polled some sister sites with no response thus far from the submitter. This is a last resort or sorts...

LOL! I had three guys over here last night making nose prints all over my monitor trying to figure out if this is real or 3D or what. What caught my eye was the hair...doesn't look very real...but then I'm new to this so who am I to say? And yes, she does look a bit like Jennifer, and I agree, Jennifer is a very beautiful woman (and no, I'm not gay...just appreciate a good looking woman when I see one!)