That certainly sounds like the exact file I downloaded. Maybe I'll explore some more what's going on here. Thanks.

Thanks. However, the link on the Metacreations site appears not to be for Painter 3D SE. When I tried to install it, it told me Painter3D was not properly installed. I continued anyway (always a bad idea, by the way) and then it wouldn't let me start Painter3D because it wanted a serial number. I had to remove Painter3D and reinstall it. Oh well. Jim

Tell me about it! Can't you tell I'm out of breath!? Jim

Thanks, Jeff. That's kind of what I was thinking. No complaint from here though! Poser 4 is so awesome! Much better than Poser 2 which is what I had before. Jim

Thanks, Jeff. I can actually create most of the changes using the facial morphs. However, the manual says that there is an Eye Roundness parameter dial and an Ethnicity dial. (This is on page 153 of the manual.) Is this just something that existed when the manual went to press but was removed from the release product? I sure can't find either parameter dial anywhere! Jim