Quote - I have thousands of dollars worth of content from Rendo, DAZ and many dead outlets. A full terrabyte of installers. I know the horror of the DL and install. Its really no better with zip files... well maybe a little better if you could drop them all at once and batch them... but you cant because zip creators are no more consistent than installer creators.

Perhaps vendors should step in and moderatae this as they do the forums. Take an inititative for once. Make a Standardization requirement. I am sure you probably put in as many hours filtering and listening to the hate mail on bad directories structures as we do fighting with the install process. Why not save both sides time and money and start putting your foot down. Get rid of all the unwanted junk. Until vendors put their foot down and tell creators to quit being inconsistant and relate to content creators what the customers want they will never know. You have testors before you place items in your stores. That means that you are enforcing quality checks already. A standardization policy should be included also.

Quote -   You are correct, I meant EULA. Apologies.

What other vendors do is their business and i have no opinion on their delivery methods.

Installers are simply our preferred method and we are within our rights to use the method we prefer. We have heard the request to do simple zip files and as I have already stated... and with all due respect... that is just not a direction we wish to go in. I would be happy to listen to any other ideas.

You have spoken, Thank you Rand. I will now take my leave of the topic.

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Hello,

I think that is exactly the opposite of what people would want.

If you stick to the installers, a simple improvement would be to let them remember to install for Poser as the selected application, similar to the content path (currently they remember the runtime path, but fall back to "DAZ studio" every time. One is tempted to think that this is intentionally). Ideally I would like to see zip files, really! The tons of "program hasn't installed correctly" messages are really really annoying. 

 

Best regards,

   Michael

 

 

One of the problems with the current installers Michael is that they do not work on Macs now. I agree ideally zips. I am a stickler about my folder system. And Daz folders are notably atrocious. Rand you say you want to steer away from zip files, but the old SIT file were a form of zips. And the rest of the installs required PowerPC.

I personally hope we can come to some type of compromise. Unfortunately with the release of Poser Debut. You have to be advanced to get items installed into the correct folders as external folders are disabled. Poser has been nice enough to install folders for the Daz characters and clothing, but your runtimes do not install into those files. There are too many versions of Poser floating around, add all the versions of DS and other .obj programs: It is simple. We need the flexibility to install into the program runtime, external hard drive (some of carry TBs of files) or work folders that we can zip the render content file together and transport it to a render machine.

Daz has simply turned into a hobbyist site and is not professional friendly anymore. Yet you are expecting us to support professionally priced software of Daz Studio...I think you've stretched to thin, then tried to snap back like a bungie cord. Daz needs some direction and to decide what it is willing to provide. More then this it needs to decides what demographics it is going to serve. If you want to serve Daz Studio and Poser, that is fine, if you want to serve only your content that is fine. Just make a distinction and live with it. You can't continue to go back and forth.

Randall, 

I have noticed one question that still has not been answered.

Why, in the past 3+ years since Mac went to intel processors and had zip capability are we seeing product installers that are using obsolete PowerPC even on releases that were released after the change? 

How difficult would it be to reset the downloads to zip only.

Second, I agree with the previous mention that the directory structure is atrotious, and please start monitoring and restricing the use of '!' in the directory structure.

Quote - Dear Sir,

Why does content from the DAZ store use installers? Why can't I just unzip a runtime?

The installers:

• are flaky;

• restrict control over where content is installed;

• may refuse installation if another product is "missing" - why? Why must I have, for example, V4 to install V4 content. I may, quite legitimately, wish to use the content with another figure;

• are too long winded - very annoying if one is reinstalling or rebuilding the runtime structure.

My compliments,

Marc

I have the same issue also, it's a headache with a Mac since they now use intel processors and powerpc is absolete. please correct your files.

yeah, flashchat php is showing a small update release since the flash security patch. renderosity is still running the old numbers..... ~tap tap on a admins shoulder and bats eyes~ pleeeeeeeease.....

is it cause i updated my flash player that i can't get on flash chat anymore?

oh, and one third stupid question... does poser run on 64 bit? I looked at the site and they just say xp. I'm assuming that means 32-bit, but I was always taught what assume spells.

been there, done that, every time....

ohs...I like that idea

See, I am blond. I would of never came up with that idea.

Basically, and yes I know it sounds old fashioned, the old format c: style.

I want to remove the installed materials, figures, poses, textures etc after i finish a poster piece so I can start with a small "compact" listing. Basically returning it to the "installation" point.

Memory is a premium on my machine :(

We're just making progress on getting people power back in Riley County in Kansas from the Ice Storm.

shhh.... you're telling our secrets!

We could always do a voice chat server like teamspeak.....then we could work while we talk instead of just lurking!

I would really like to see the search parameters of Hot, New, Popular back...any chance?