Happy to be among such talent. Thanks for the privilege.

Yes, pjz99, I would like to join.

Constructive criticism is how we learn and expand our abilities. I appreciate every word I get.

Thanks for the quick response. Xurge responded to my e-mail quickly and I thank you all for your help. Ken

Message edited on: 09/21/2005 18:58

"Sigh... old topics rehashed." College degree or not, that comment was useless and meant to insult or silence. Remember your other comment? "pride comes before the fall."

It could be said that tolerance in some circumstances is in line with apathy and indifference. I suppose were are to remain indifferent when we could suggest options to improve an artist work?

I like critique. I don't understand why anyone would post an image if it's not their best work or are at the very least looking for some guidance or constructive criticism. If they receive some it is because someone saw something in their work and liked it. It should never be taken as an insult. The more you know, the better you get. That applies in every aspect of life.

Muscrat, old topics rehashed? I suppose you made a similar useless response the first time around. Art should have an emotional impact. Like or dislike. Images made for sexual gratification and no other reason is not art. Especially in the simple minded fashion it is presented with Poser Characters. Nudity is beautiful, as long as there is a purpose to the picture other than titillation.

A lot of the problem has to do with the manuals. I've self taught myself the many different versions of Photo Shop, numerous manuals, videos and the sort. Posers manual is the worst I've ever come across. For a software that deals with creating images, there is very few illustrations. I've read a lot of criticism of the 'Poser 6 Revealed - the official guide'. I bought it and it helped me many different ways. I agree there needs to be a forum that critiques and helps fellow artists. I'm surprised and disappointed one doesn't exist. Though I've posted on my home page to my gallery that I am very open to critique I mostly get as has been mentioned, just accolades. I appreciated the few comments I get. But it does appear clear, most members are interested in the overly endowed bimbo pin-ups. Poser is a toy, like a video game to most people. If the merchants would create more realistic and creative accessories to go with the characters, things could be different. But the merchants and all their scanty clothing and numerous incarnations of the nude body only encourages people who use Poser as titillation.

My opinion, based on having viewed so many galleries here, is that many people do not have the patience to pose the characters. Posing can be difficult and frustrating. But a unique position can make or break an image. You also do not have to rely on the Poser render as the final image. If you have photo editing software, go in there and experiment. Poser is meant to be a tool. Just one of many to help you create and open up new, and in my case, old worlds.

Message edited on: 06/18/2005 21:59