They'll be back. They always leave in a huff like this, but they always come back again. The site has too much to offer for them to stay away for very long.<< Um I doubt it...digital-cheryle is the shit there for OT ...Im just here waiting for my account to be deleted.

by who???....you have me in suspense lol :-)

You should thank the OT forum members for these changes besides the programmers....cause if we didnt make a big stink about it these changes would not have happened

free site??? you should actually take a look at some other forums around that are just as free....WAY BETTER FEATURES...but dont worry...I wont be here long cause I requested spike to delete my account....

This positive news is damage control that is sugar coated

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so they've shut down the OT Forum just before the decapitation movie was released! Imagine the discussion at the forum!...... << LOL we are talking about that subject over at www.digital-cheryle.com...and its very civil to the point where most agree that it was a real sad shame that it happen....

whoppee....I find it amusing that when this site pisses a group of people off they go and add some "enhancements" to the site to try and attempt to make people happy....Im sorry, but these new updates are standard everywhere else...this whole forum is a dinosaur...how bout some avatars???...or placing a thread to the top when replyed???...those are features that most forums have these days...and the ones that dont are a joke...like this site...meh is all I can say

This is total bullshit...just like this site has become...What should have happened was the mods should have done their job properly and just ban those certain individuals not the forum itself...So Spike you said... >>It always starts off as a simple debate and turns into a attack fest. That is why the OT forum was closed. Nothing more, nothing less.<< Cop out lame excuse...welcome to the internet...where opinions flow more than ever before. So why was the Tavern closed then too? Whats the excuse for that?...If you have the guts to pull the plug on a forum you should have the guts to properly address the members on it. That forum WAS ART...It was based on opinions from regular people from around the world and not from the opinion of some coporate news cast...What I saw in the OT forum was raw art...and that to me is keeping it real...now this site is phoney just like what i see with the art thats produced with poser, and I apologize in advance to the poser users....Im sorry...I just do not find it really artistic to pose and dress a digital barbie doll and hit the render button....but thats my opinion and thats what the OT forum was all about.

I am pretty displeased with this news. Now that the OT forum is gone there is really no reason for me to come here anymore...besides occasionally checking out the Cinema 4d forum , but thats it ,but for any of you who want an OT type forums that discuss the same topics head out to the large Dr Who forum ....They have a few forums that are non Dr Who related which are.... ---arc of infinity the media forum--- TV series films music radio science fiction literature media beyond doctor who ---the tenth planet debate and discussion--- politics religion real world issues our serious discussion and debate section on many topics ---paradise towers fun and frolic--- the whimsical & light-hearted side of the forum general discussion on many topics ---the leisure hive private section--- lively and popular section for mature users only The adress to access these forums are... http://www.gallifreyone.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=23

news crossfire and meet the press can and is discussed on the ot forum.....i would like a forum were members likemyself can discuss about movies and tv shows ......sure there might be a strong debate here and there but the debate would be about whether matrix revolutions sucks or rules....and not about bush vs the dems ...they should just call the ot forum the pollitical forum

agreed :-)

ok thats fair and all....but why are memebrs sooo irraitated by ususally "one" bad non constructive comment?....while enjoying a few good comments and maybe one or 2 constructive comments on the same piece?..... "a comment should be either a compliment or a constructive criticism couched in proper terms" well in the work force it doesnt work that way.....you have to endure all types of comments from all types of people ...some being great ...some being constructive.,...and of course some being nasty ......you get the full package ...if you think getting a bad comment from someone you wont see face to face on this forum is bad try and dealing it with an employeer or a client you work for......it sucks yes...but its like that in any other job around......its normal! ...and a artist has to learn to deal with it cause if you cant then maybe one should just stick with showing there moms there work and get the happy go lucky go comments to help with their ego:-)

what ever happened to freedom of speech?....constructive or not....this is probably what i dislike most about this site is the constant whinning about comments one receives.....you cant expect to receive all the "wow thats excellent" or all constructive comments that one hopes to get or just all have negative useless comments....but have abit of everything....variety is the spice of life .....look at the reviews from the movie gigli ..... does that stop jen and ben from making more movies?......no......take it with a grain of salt and prove to yourself and your critics that you are strong and learn from it....or else just dont enable the comments :-) ...the world can be a beautiful place....but also it can be a nasty place as well.....cant have one without the other.....cause if you think that then maybe you should wake up to reality :-)

with all due respect ....Anthony has every right to place his model knife in the free stuff section even if kruse's model knife looks similar and costs money ..... but kruse you said: "we check the marketplace first, before we are going to upload a free item" i guess thats a good rule of thumb and maybe thats good advice for anthony to look into the next time but this is a big community were there are profit drivin people here and there are people who just wish to share with everyone by giving it away for free..........but with all due respect ot you something like as simply as a knife or ladders or eye ball textures and what not are not worth selling and should be givin for free ...in my opinion....if a merchant has an item for sale and sees an item that closely resembles but not in any way was copied then that merchant has a few options that he or she should consider a) give that item for free b) offer that item for alot less c) offer that item free with a purchase there are a ton of new models to make and sell....and no one should rely on an item to be sold forever...eventually an item becomes obsolete in the market place when practically the same model is offered for free.....do what you suggested to anthony: "the huge assortment of divers-knifes (long, small, thick, all coloured) why not make them yourself and sell them as a bundle...why give anthony any ideas that you can profit from ? :-)

i just read a few of the comments here only because im on my break and dont have time to read it all (hmmmm sounds like gallery viewing ) but yeah anyways.....i really like the idea of an option to tell the viewer ....hey ....give it to me straight.....if i were to see that option on someones work....im more than willing to comment on it.....but i dont because of the so called artist cant take some critizism ...which is the first rule thats broken that an artist can do ...... not accept realistic improving feed back.....but id like to take it a further step......and have and option for hey give it to me straight.....and have another even more honest option saying...hey give me your best and ugliest shot where you can say what ever your hearts desire......honestly....for me.....id love to have some one say ......man this is crap......and thats it.....nothing more ......i would not get mad at all over a comment like that......i encourage it....but dont get me wrong...i love the other comments too.....but i would love to invite any so called troll to comment on my pics HOWEVER YOU WISH TO without ristrictions....heck you can even say something that doesnt say anything about the ppic and iwouldnt care.....cause i appreciate the time they took to write alittle comment on my pic.....so in case anyone wants to test me on that...be my guest......but its a really good idea and im for implementing it.....later breaks over.....

you guys gals (admin) could make a new poll..... rebekah ...nice fresh idea

it doesnt matter if its once a day....it still gonna get buried.....usually the fractal group posts 3 at a time ...honestly it really should be once a week with this many members.....i wish the admins. would give that option of once a week on the polls