Now have a different graphic card and memory... still crashed!... re-installed P4 with antivurus off, got 3 half hour sessions with no crashes!!... then after another half hour got a blue screen crash... on rebooting I noticed the cpu temp was 54 degrees C.... I think that might be a little hot for an AMD 3200 XP...

Must admit antivirus was on when I installed... I'll try it...

I can work for up to 10 mins or more... renders great and fast...several times.. then it just goes...nothing to do with rendering..or content.. I recently reinstalled P4... didn't work.. went after 5 mins.. content, render resolutions, settings.. tried it all...doesn't make a difference.. everything is updated, no conflicts....not the graphic card, memory or monitor.. I've had two of each.... for specs check out my previous message..

I'm at the end of my tether!

my old pc runs poser ok... just slow... thats why I got a new one...and to use the latest textures and models... I can't believe this is happening!... why me! it's a high spec PC that can crash with just basic P4 stuff...but it runs all my other apps fine... including Bryce 3D...

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Maybe not a poser/Geforce problem then! I get my problem with CRT and LCD... just didn't get the message with the CRT, screen just went black!

Heat problem is a new angle, worth adding to my list... but it can happen after only a very short while.. that's the most frustrating aspect.. there is no real pattern to it. The only pattern is it will happen, when can vary... 2 mins, 10 mins, 30 mins.. I know poser crashes for all sorts of reasons but this is too regular to be acceptable... I reinstalled P3 out of curiosity... I wondered if it would instigate the same problem... surprisingly and annoyingly it did! I wouldn't think they interfere, they are on different directories, anyway I only had P4 installed at first..one reason I upgraded to P5 was to see if it cured the problem and was most annoyed when it went after just 10 mins!!! after I installed the SR4 to P5 it ran for nearly an hour, thought I had cured it..then it went! rebooted opened P5 again and it went again after 5 mins!.. tried later and it went after 15 mins.. see what I mean! unfortunatley while the shop that built the pc is familiar with PC's in general they have no experience with poser...

I have a message posted about a similar problem, many kind people are offering suggestions.. I'm using XP with a G-Force FX5500... all versions (P3, P4 and P5) work fine for a while then my system goes, I get a black screen with 'input not supported' floating about... you only get this message on LCD monitors.. All my other apps work fine... maybe there is a Poser G-Force problem!

Thanks for all the suggestions... it's looking like a hardware problem... It happens to all three versions... 3, 4 and 5... They all start, run great.. then it goes... rendering doesn't seem to affect it.. it can go before I do a render, when I'm just mesing about with poses etc,, or I can do several, firefly or P4, main window or new (and it renders in seconds!!the reason why I bought a new PC!)... content makes no difference either... my version of 5 has no 3rd party installed and the 'basic' P4 was the first program I loaded on the new PC... vickie or P4 figures, high res textures or simple primatives... it can go anytime! I think it's a matter of deduction... it's not the programs, all 3 can't have the same problem and 3 and 4 worked fine on my old PC (just slowly!), something in my new PC doesn't like the poser 'engine' which I think is similar to all 3... it runs fast and fine for a while then suddenly a signal is sent to the monitor that it can't handle... it isn't the monitor, I've used 2... so next down the chain is the graphic card...

It also happened with my old CRT monitor, except it just went black with no message, only LCD monitors produce the message... I am discussing the video card with the shop... I searched the internet and it seems NVIDEA cards on XP can lock a lot of games!.. might not be the same, but it's a start.. and at least trying out a new card rules that out!

It is XP... I am in discussion with the shop that built this PC, unfortunatley they suggest we wait to hear from Curious Labs... I've had nothing from them in 2 months despite numerous e-mails and forms to technical support... Is anybody aware of any hardware that poser doesn't like? for example my Nvidea G-Force FX5500 graphic card... that is the component that is sending the input to the monitor! Searching the net I have found a few gamers who experience similar problems with nvidea products... I would have thought poser is a lot less demanding on the graphics than most games!.. (I tried turning the acceleration down/off... it didn't chamge anything..)

Thanks for all your suggestions... Last nite I downloaded the proper AOC driver for my monitor, I was told it didn't need it... I tried anyway and it hasn't fixed it, just opened P4 added a Vickie 3 and started texturing, did a test render, started adjusting the pose and it went! Input not supported is generated by the monitor when the computer tries to do something it can't support, something in Poser (all versions) is triggering this! none of my other programmes do it!.. I'm at the stage where I'm gonna take the PC back... something inside doesn't like Poser!! I have been put in touch with a computer 'wizard', I'll show him your suggestions and if he can't suss it the shop who built the PC are gonna have to start changing things.. it seems the system I have just isn't compatible with Poser, or one of the components is faulty!!... and for me the thing that stays is Poser!...the rest can be changed! Bob

Thanks for the speedy reply... I have a microsoft optical mouse and keyboard and at the moment I haven't connected my scanner or printer... This problem started before I had my LCD monitor, I was still using my old mouse, keyboard and standard monitor.. except then I didn't get the error message, just a black screen! I think maybe the problem is between Poser and my graphic card!! According to my manual the 'input not supported' message appears when the computer is trying to get the monitor to do something it can't! I can't understand why this only happens to Poser 4 and 5 and why sometimes I can work perfectly well for hours!