That looks like a fix to me (assuming I can duplicate it at home :) The slight halo will be hidden by the tilt of the head in my original picture anyway so that looks like it might just the ticket. Thanks.

Nope. I've checked them many times. (btw, this same thing happens quite often with hair too.) Apart from the reflection thing it also seems as though the light is somehow getting through the object as though there were a gap (there isn't). This is really starting to annoy me now. Oh, btw I'm using pro pack if that's relevant (I might try installing a second copy without pro pack?)

Not a light no. I did put a spot on it to try and define the feature a bit, but the bright eyes effect was there before (and can be produced with only one light). What would a reflective surface be? That's what it looks like to me, as though the underside of the brim is reflecting light onto the eyes. What settings turn on/off a reflective surface?

minkey?

Yeah, spider monkey kinda thing is what I want too. I know there's a "monkey Mike" in the free stuff, but that's way too cartoony for me (and besides is really more ape than monkey). Where's the victoria one? I think I'm goin gto have to try and warp someone into a quasi-monkey but I'm dreading trying to make the textures... (I don't need much detail anyway I just want a full body shot of a character with a monkey sittin gon his shoulder (so it will be fairly small). I just didn't want to have to fudge a cut & paste of a 2D monkey picture...

Thanks Melanie but this was just a quick showing of what I was talking about, not an actual render :)

No, its the P4 version of Michael 2.

I've just downloaded these and I can't get them to fit properly even scaled - the hip cloths in particular are either too big ont he z or the hip bone pokes through on one or both sides. (And I can't see any morph dials at all?) Does anyone have a modified version that works on Victoria? (Assuming permission to distribute of course)

Hmm, now I look at it again, the right hand face black shape looks to be indented, while the black writing looks raised (and all the white looks raised). Weird..

LOL. Strange combination of anal organisation and laxness. :) I like it ;)

Hmm, curiouser and curiouser... Looks like you opened an old can of worms KiDAcE ;) Yes Spanki I'd definately aggree that in two out of the three faces (right and top) the white looks positive while the black looks negative. As for the difference in heights, yes I agree there too, but that would be caused if the grey is darker than 50% (I can't tell from the picture, what's the values?) I will try this myself when I get home (using pro pack). It would seem this has never been thoroughly tested has it (different platforms, setups etc.)? Its probably not going to grab people's interest now with Poser 5 seeming to take all the focus around here now.