Yes that's right the management of Zygote are to look at reducing the cost of Victoria. If you want the full story please go to this thread in the Complaint & Debate Forum and the last post by Chad Smith in particular: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12360&Form.ShowMessage=113796 His post also has some news on the Millennium Man. Please might I request that anyone reading the full thread in the C & D Forum not respond in this thread to any of the "other issues" that came "a visiting" into a discussion on the price of Victoria. Most of those "other issues" have and are being debated over in the C & D Forum, please respond to them there or start a new thread, if you feel you really have to. Since it seems that Chad has put the issues raised to the Zygote Management, he is probably going to be the person who will have to make the case formally in front of them when they meet. So please, anyone who feels this is a good thing, reply with support and encouragement for him. It is not often that manufacturers respond so quickly and positively to issues among consumers and Chad is a rare gem and he deserves all the support we can give him. If he is successful it will be a positive thing for all of the Poser communities to come out of the recent troubles. ******* Thanks to you Chad. ******** STORM