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Subject: Medieval village kit.......


brainmuffin ( ) posted Sun, 18 June 2000 at 1:39 PM ยท edited Fri, 13 December 2024 at 3:05 PM

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I'm working on a medieval city for my animation project, "Warriors of Nalroa". I'm going to put it on my spot on BBAY.com. This is the Inn, there will also be 3 or 4 other building types, hitching posts, some crates, a section of cobblestone road, a haywagon, and a vendor cart. The door and the shutters on this building open and close, and the barrels are open on one end, and closed on the other, so they can be displayed either way. The Kit will most likely sell for about $24.95... What do you think?


ColtCentaur ( ) posted Sun, 18 June 2000 at 2:49 PM

It's not a bad model but I would not pay for it. The reason is the stuff in the model can be found free elsewhere like the barrels, cart, hay wagon and door. A few little defects like the paper-thin roof; also the shutters hang inside the window frame vs. hanging outside like they should keep the model from looking real. Ok I don't want to kill your creative talent so I will suggest some things to make the model look really good. 1) Hinges for the sign 2) Holes cut into the shutters or some decorative paint 3) Rust metal texture for the barrels 4) Door knob :) Point is it's the little extra's that make a model good enough to pay money for :) -Have Fun! Colt


cooler ( ) posted Sun, 18 June 2000 at 5:35 PM

brainmuffin I really like it, in fact it's way beyond my meager modelling skills, (at least so far :-), but Alle & Colt are correct... the quality of a model is in the details. As an recommendation from old, broken down, semi-retired construction guy, including some or all of the following will help immeasurably with a more "realistic look" & therefore a more salable model window frames door jambs metal trim... hinges/keyholes/etc. handles/knobs on the shutters door thresholds exterior corner trim on the buildings (always the weak point of a wall) chimneys some type of support for the offset wall at the front of the building. The technology of medieval times didn't allow for precast concrete to "float" the way it's shown in your pic. there was always some sort of beam support used (think Swiss Chalet balcony :-)


Maz ( ) posted Sun, 18 June 2000 at 7:10 PM

I have to say that it doesn't look much like any mediaeval building I've ever seen, and we still have a few in England despite the efforts of the Luftwaffe and modern architects. The tiles appear to be Roman or Mediterranean style. I'd prefer to see plain clay tyles or maybe thatch. They also need thickness. I agree with the other comments - take a look at a few books on mediaeval (sorry, I tried spelling it the American way but I went into severe withdrawal symptoms, so reverted to the English version) architecture and include all the details. Even in the old days buildings had to be built properly or they fell down. Keep at it, you'll get there in the end. Cheers, Maz


Imaginos ( ) posted Sun, 18 June 2000 at 9:30 PM

Wattle and Daub between posts :) add the support on the corners, do a websearch for old photographs, Look for the book Castles. Keep it up Imaginos


Maz ( ) posted Mon, 19 June 2000 at 10:53 AM

Imaginos, I don't think they had cameras in those days, so even modern photos should be OK. :-)


brainmuffin ( ) posted Mon, 19 June 2000 at 2:28 PM

hmm, very strange. I posted a message here last night, but it's gone..... Anyway, Thanks for the input, I'm remodeling the inn now. You were right, Maz, it does look mediterranean. (that would make it Renaissance?) I found a photo of wattle and daub construction, and I'm going to retexture it to that style. I think I'm going to make it customizable, though. A texture similar to the one pictured above, and a wattle and daub with a thatch roof. I'm also including quite a few of the details suggested. Biggest problem: All of the mediaeval buildings still around today are either castles, churches, cathedrals, or abbeys.So historical accuracy is going to be a problem. But how many movies have you seen that were entirely historically accurate? Anyway, I'll post the new inn in a day or 2. Thanks again!! Brain


Maz ( ) posted Mon, 19 June 2000 at 5:29 PM

There are actually quite a lot of run-of-the-mill mediaeval buildings around if you know where to look. France and Germany still have quite a few small towns that have changed very little for 500 years. In England I'm afraid we don't really have any complete towns left but there are still a lot of individual buildings still around. The peasant dwellings tended to be not very durable so they were the first to collapse or be knocked down, but there are still plenty of pubs for instance that are 400 years old or more. There are also plenty of books on the subject. There's nothing wrong with Mediterranean tiles, they had them in Roman times onwards, it's just that I happen to like the old English style of plain clay tiles which are sported by most of the old buildings in the market town where I live.


ColtCentaur ( ) posted Mon, 19 June 2000 at 6:16 PM

Zygote has there free church to D/L It looks very good :) -Colt


brainmuffin ( ) posted Tue, 20 June 2000 at 12:05 AM

I just posted the reworked inn. It's not done, but i think it's looking a lot better...


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