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Subject: The challenge of a tree!!!


jo3l ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 6:40 AM · edited Sun, 28 July 2024 at 12:24 AM

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Hello everybody.

First I want to thank AgentSmith for this chalenge. I use only Bryce 4 since a while and I get the chance to try Bryce 5 Demo version and make Eucalyptus 738.

So I tried to get it on Corel.com but not online. After searching in my collection of cd i fund a demo version, installed it and tried directly the tree lab. Mmmmm...It's a powerfull lab where you can mostly do normal tree. I wanted to get a Bonzai or something special, but I get a lot of problem. My challenge was to get a tree without assembling trees to get one.

Here my feedback.

You can't scale separatly the trunk. You have only one size. I wanted to have a shorter trunk. You can't define the crawn of your tree. If you want a branch on the botom of the trunk for example, simply not possible. You can't define the roots as you want..standart...boring!!

For the material you can't apply a picture material in spherical or cylindrical mapping. It doesn't match...And the worst of all is the render modus in the lab...SLOW!!!!!! I could sleep before to see something... The rest is pretty good. I get some fun at all.

After I began to contruct my picture. I do some booleans...Like Bryce 4.

I worked with some texture that i assembled together to get the room. Psd file, big, more than 10 meg. Also no prob.

I tried meta balls....That's the reason I'm going to buy Bryce 5. That's simply GREAT, EXCELLENT.....I had a lot of fun with it...

When i began to play with radial light the problem were back. SLOW, SLOW and SLOW...Rendered modus...ZZZZzzzzzzzz...You put soft shadow and nothing goes round....You just wait.....

So I hope Corel is going to do something to push the software in a better condition of work.

I rendered the picture in normal shadow because softshadows are not avaible in the demo version. No postwork except for the signature.

Thank for reading and viewing!


draculaz ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 8:06 AM

nitpicking mode.... [ON] k, I have to say that's it's a great effort, but I do have a couple of thoughts on the work. first off, this has to be a nature scene -glares at Doublecrash. Second, I don't understand how you got that background shadow work done, because as far as I can see, it actually covers the entire scene and seems to derive more from postwork... and yeah... that's about it. interesting, I have no problem with this if DC doesn't. Let me unhang him from the Corel building and see what he has to say. goes off to Ottawa Drac


Doublecrash ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 8:32 AM

Ooops... sorry to be the "ruiner", here, but the basic #1 rule says that the scene must be "a depiction of a nature scene (landscape, lake, waterfall, forest, woods and so on)". This said, the tree is really interesting. I would sink the roots a bit more into the ground. S.


Doublecrash ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 8:33 AM

BTW, thanks Drac for unhanging me... I was beginning to choke a bit :)


jo3l ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 8:37 AM

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To draculaz: The background shadow work? I don't understand..mmm The background and the floor are made with 2 cube and a texture. Quake texture assembled together by me and maped in parametric.....for the effect like shadow or light points is made with a sphere and texture Puff Ball with different parametre... For the nature scene...It's my vision of a nature scene in the space.


jo3l ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 8:51 AM

Sorry! I didn't read the THEME tread and my vision will stay like that.. I will better read everything next time! :-(


Ang25 ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 9:32 AM

Well if thats the case of nature scene then wouldn't AgentSmith's entry also be void? He also has a tree in a pot. Ang


draculaz ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 10:23 AM

hate to be a spoiler here, but if we all had a chance to make a non-nature scene, the challenge would have been different. Even for my entry, despite being on a different world, it's still a nature scene. Oh, and jo3l, sorry dude, but even if the scene would be accepted as a nature one, there would still be the thing about the lighting. has to be natural sunlight :/ solid effort though :) Drac


Ang25 ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 10:33 AM

Looks like a sidewalk to me, just put a couple of stray blades of grass here or there and kill any lighting other than the sun and it should work as a nature scene. Just my opinion. Ang


catlin_mc ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 10:40 AM

It is a great tree no matter what the rest of you say. If you have any lights remove them and illuminate the scene only with the sun. It might not give the effect you desire but it will make it eligible to enter the challenge, and you can always put this version in your gallery. As for what makes a nature scene, I've got a cottage in mine, should my image contain only trees? Another thing, Drac you were cut a lot of slack after all your procrastinations about going to cheat 'cos you didn't like the tree lab etc.. Your final image was being slapped because it was all red and I stood up for you because the scene didn't have to be on Earth, and as was said earlier AgentSmiths image is the same as this, a tree in a pot. So what's the problem. Anyway, welcome to the forum Jo and welcome to the challenge, you may live to regret it, lol 8) Catlin


catlin_mc ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 10:42 AM

and the closing date is now midnight 3rd of September because it was a short month and there is a holiday in the US.


Ang25 ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 11:42 AM

I don't think the tree needs to be sunk down any, it looks to me like it is growing over a rock. Any way, I think its a very good looking tree and the work done around it is excellent too. I say rerender it without artificial lights and upload it as an entry. Ok just my 2 cents.


jo3l ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 1:40 PM

Thanks to all for encouraging me to do it again. The problem is that i'm in switzerland and it's 20:36, at home on my laptop and no bryce. So if I get tomorow morning do the correction maybe I will get the picture for the challenge at 23:59 (renderosity time). If not thanks to all of you and see you next month for a new challenge. Amicalement votre Jo3l


danamo ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 2:17 PM

Good luck jo31.


Doublecrash ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 2:37 PM

jo3l, I didn't want to be an a**hole in saying that! I do think your picture is great and I said that in my post above. Then, why I have to take all responsibility for that? :) Go ahead and post it, the challenge images are accepted after approval, so if it gets approved by the community, for me it's OK 100% :) S.


Swade ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 5:27 PM

Personally.... I don't mind if jo3l enters his tree in the challenge. Partly because of what has been written in so many threads as of late.... we are one of the most forgiving and understanding forums around. Just my 2cents. 8) Nice Tree work jo3l. Hope to see it in the challenge. 8)

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catlin_mc ( ) posted Mon, 01 September 2003 at 5:58 PM

and once again we are one big happy family, lol 8)


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