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Subject: a challenge to Modelers


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Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 9:04 AM · edited Fri, 14 February 2025 at 3:14 PM

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ok i have a challenge for you guys ive tried doing it myself and i cant seem to do it. then again im not a very good modeler lol. this challenge is for you guys that model for Poser im great at texture workings and character design of Mike 2 and im getting decent at mike 3 if any of you wanna give me a hand at this i would greatly thank you. and for the one that takes this challenge i will give my character and the textures for their model for free. and they can sell it as they see fit. all i want is the model i think there is a serious lack of this sort of clothing in poser and i think its a shame because it is very detailed and eligant (btw i cant spell) and i can only dream of the textures that will come from it from all the great Texture artists well here is my challenge make the clothes on the picture above for M3. thats it. i hope one of you great modelers will take my challenge. Thanks for reading my long winded challenge lol Shain


SAMS3D ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 9:31 AM

I will tell you if anyone can do this Rena can. Sharen


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 9:49 AM

I agree, Shain, that's gorgeous!!! Hmmmm ... I'm SO tempted to give that a try, but I don't know how fast I can make it! LOL



Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 9:51 AM

There is No hurry


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 9:58 AM

OK ... OK ... you twisted my arm. I'll give it a shot 8-)



Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:18 AM

if you need more pics i have a few


Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:19 AM

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Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:22 AM

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Two


SAMS3D ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:24 AM

Wow, this will be great once it is done...you go Deecey


pdxjims ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:26 AM

The clothing is possible. PhilC's Romantic stuff is close. The cape with the drape over the arm and all the morphs will be a complete you-know-what to do. I'd love one though.


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:29 AM

Hehehe agreed on the cape, that was my hesitation. But, I will surely try my best 8-)



DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:30 AM

Shain, these are spectacular. I am totally in love with this outfit and will try my best to do it justice. Dee



Caly ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:30 AM

Um... drool That is one sweet-looking guy & set-up. Makes me really wish I knew how to model- because not only would I want to make the clothes, I would want to make Him with that mane of hair. :)

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Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:30 AM

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three ok ok thats it


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:33 AM

Maybe we can twist the arms of a hair modeler to give that a shot 8-)



Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:35 AM

The Hair is another thing. im not sure but i think im gonna use arizona hair and tweek it a bit but i dont know. i really suck at trans maps thats the only part of textureing i suck at


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:37 AM

The hard part about the hair would be getting the length and flow correctly. There are very few hair modelers that could pull that off. I've been wanting some long, down to the waist, Native American hair too. I can give some hair a shot, but I think that there are others that can pull it off a lot better than I can. 8-) RE: Trans maps ... what program are you using?



Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:38 AM

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yeah the cape too that was my down fall. the cape killed me. oh and pdxjims heres something for ya i know you make that Imagination Gown. check this out


onnetz ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:44 AM

nobody here plays video games? lookup castlevania and you will find plenty of pics of these guys.... :-)

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Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:48 AM

Photoshop. and yeah go head and try the hair but dont overwelm yourself. work it a piece at a time. i was gonna do the vest thingy first then the jacket then the cape. but even trying to draw out what i was gonna do for the cape killed me. but i tell you for me making the character is the easy part. skin is simple to texture. and other then that i get it easy some what lol. mike 3 is not a lovely man


Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:53 AM

ah you found me out onnetz. that Alucard and Dracula from Castlevania symphony of the Night. i just thought there was a massive shortage on eligant clothing. its almost non exsistant. its mostly "lets see what little we can put on vicky" and if you have a michael pic it never makes it over 400 veiwings even if a vicky pic sucks and the mike pic is spectacular


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:58 AM

OK ... here's a little tip that might help you with hair transmaps. This is how I usually approach hair ... Create a layer filled completely with black. Above that layer, paint each of the hair color(s) on separate layers. For example, I start with the darkest hair color layers first, and then put each subsequent lighter color on an individual layer, so that I can adjust the opacity so that each layer blends in with the underlying colors. I work my way up to the highlight colors. When you're ready to make the trans map, merge all hair layers together, or keep the originals and make a copy of each layer to merge them together. Now ... with the merged hair color layer as the current layer, go to the Layers panel. Right-click the little layer thumbnail, and choose "Select Layer Transparency." That should set the selection to all of the hair that you painted. Now ... create a new layer and fill the selection with white. When you combine this layer with the solid background layer, you now have a trans map that should fit perfectly with your hair painting. You may have to fiddle with the contrast a bit to get it perfect, but it's a nifty way to do a hair trans. 8-) Hope that makes sense!



pdxjims ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:59 AM

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hmmmm.... It'd take two gowns for that. One underneath, and once over the top and open.... The collar is easy-peasy. The drape on the sleeves will be tough... but hey! I'm good at draping (grin). It'll take some time, maybe a couple of months, but I think I'll do it. IM me. I need a more detailed and larger pic of it. In the meantime, here's M3 wearing PhilC's great Romantic cloths. I used P5 textures because I like the rich look to the velvet and leather. A good texture on this one and you've got at least 80% of what you need for post 1's pic. It's actually a pretty fair fit for M3. Not perfect, but a little tweaking and it works fine. I used Flip-Do 2 from Daz for the hair.


Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 11:30 AM

The clothing itself is for my Girlfriend Mary she absolutely LOVES Alucard and i told her i would make him for her.


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:17 PM

OK ... one more question for the group here. Should I make these to fit default M3, or a more "stylized" (aka Bishonen-like) M3 that uses default facial and body morphs, and then I can supply a pose file with it? I'm thinking a tall, lanky M3 would be more suitable to all of these clothing layers, but I could be wrong. I'll go with the flow 8-)



Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:33 PM

well i think that it sould start out default. but then you can do with it what you will ya know versitile when Mary was telling me about how she wanted it she used "Stylized" quite frequently so maybe stylized is a good thing. oh one more request deecey. can you make the cape double side as to texture both inner and outer cloak kinda like Dacort's sleeveless cloak.


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:45 PM

OK ... I've done some more scouting on the web, and interestingly enough I also found some photos of Alucard costumes from game conferences. So now I have a bit more to go on. Fun stuff 8-) Here's what I see for parts: 1) Puffy sleeved shirt - with option to make sleeves invisible when worn with overcoat and cloak) 2) Vest with VERY intricate closures 3) Overcoat (love that trimming!) 4) Cloak with clasp and chain, and fold-over collar - two-sided for texturing. 5) Belt with chain that attaches to scabbard 6) Sword 7) Shield (found this in another image, it was very cool) 8) Boots (Love those too!) 9) Gloves (ouch, ouch ouch! LOLOLOL) 10) Scabard (Scabbard?) 11) Pants ... leathery, skin tight, with morphs to make them puffy. Am I missing anything? LOL



Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:57 PM

hmmm not that i can tell. oh the over coat are you gonna model the buttons or are you gonna leave that to me to texture? oh and im working on the morph now ill post it here once i get it looking like i want it


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:59 PM

I think the buttons should be modeled, otherwise they may look too flat.



MachineClaw ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:09 PM

bookmark. very interested in this outfit. cool for Anne Rice Vampire Chronicles outfits as well as a Capt Harlock outfit. Looks like what I imagine The Vampire Lestat to look.


Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:21 PM

true but have no fear i will do the textureing justice


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:22 PM

Yup, MC, it's very cool! I should probably mention beforehand that I don't want to get into copyright issues with this, so I will probably take some "artistic license" with it, so as not to duplicate it exactly.



Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:24 PM

oh definetly but mike is not a very good lookin man the morph is giving me some trouble. but i will get it


RealitysPoison ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:29 PM

Oh My!!! This will be fabulous! Can't wait to see what you can pull off.


darken666 ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 2:29 PM

Ah Alucard, Castlevania SOTN was an awesome game. Can't wait to see this finished. The Wolfpact stuff from Rena and Thip looks pretty close to a lot of this.


Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 2:33 PM

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well here is what i got of the Characater so far its not the greatest but im gonna keep workin on it


Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 2:50 PM

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here is a couple unrelated pics so you dont loose faith in my character making ablity


Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 2:51 PM

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number 2


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 2:58 PM

Wow, totally love that face!!! It's fantabulous 8-) Dee



DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 3:01 PM

Also ... what hair is that again? It's very cool 8-)



Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 3:19 PM

arizona hair


Riddokun ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 4:12 PM

hmmm in another style, what about the "Hellsing" serie version of Alucard character, it could suits well the new swat suit for victoria from baronvladharkonnen :) (for his sidekick)


Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 4:53 PM

I havent seen that Alucard


Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 5:00 PM

my girl friend says that my character looks more like Soma Cruz then Alucard lol


Laurie S ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 5:23 PM

actually that looks a lot like a project that will be released into the PClub this week.. mind the cape is not part of it and the boots are not exactly the same .. but add in the Morphing cape and a good matching texture and I bet it comes close ;-). The texture I am working on for the pack is totally different but maybe one of us will try for it next week..


Jon ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 6:01 PM

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I know brycetech did a set of Castlevania clothes but I don't know if they're for sale, you might want to contact him.


Foxseelady ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 6:30 PM

omgod!! Shain awesome work you are doing. Love it. Love the face, the clothes, the hair eeeeek (giggles like little kid) lol. Now I guess I'm going to have to get m3, didn't really want to too bad buttttt, unless of course these things can be used for m2 too? nahh likely not seems to only go one way up up up. ;) I'll be keeping my eye out though this is really interesting.


brycetech ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 8:00 PM

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Shain ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 8:05 PM

Similar but its just not what i was looking for. i cant explain it. it just doesnt look like clothing they look like toys


PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 9:00 PM

maybe with different texturing, you could get the effect you want...



darken666 ( ) posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 9:39 PM

true enough. Texturing can do wonders for any model, and it looks rather good to me. Brycetech is that set available in any form?


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