I'm a bit surprised that there are no eye closed morphs to the most advanced Millenium figures. There's wince and blink. Wince will lightly close the eyes. Wince will add wrinkles at the outer sides of the eyes. Blink lowers the top lid. There doesn't seem to be anything that raises the lower lid. Poser 5's figures have a nice array of eye expressions that move the lids, eye creases, brows, and forehead wrinkles in a single morph. I really wish that DAZ would stop its feud with Curious Labs and support Poser 5 because 5 has a nice feature where morphs can be combined into categories instead of being in one massive list.

I don't know of a reason why you would really need to raise the lower lid but it doesn't exist. Closing my eyes doesn't raise the lower lid more than a micro sliver and it might not even be that much. it is hard to tell how much it is moving wwith my finger on it but it doesn't suddenly move. As for Poser 5, I don't know anything about it really. Sorry.

Erm, blinking IS closing one's eyes. And as for having the ability to move eyes/brows/forehead wrinkles in one go, I don't like that idea. That's someone else's idea of a character, not mine. I like controlling each part individually and to differing degrees. Lhiannan <-Not a P5 owner

I am a poser 5 owner and my Vicky & Mike 3's can close their eyes - surely that is all that blinking is - a very long blink! I asked my son to close his eyes and his lower lid didn't appear to move at all. Sleeping - forty winks!

What they said. Nature didn't feel the need for a double set of shutters in this case and the muscles attached to the lower lid are practically vestigial. Hold your upper eyelids to your brow, look in the mirror and try to lift them without moving your cheek.

Well actually when you you look up the act pulls the lower lid up a bit, while contracting the upper. So I supposed if you wanted to get super realistic. Some riggers in the animation field will rig the eyelids to autorespond to eye rotation, to get an automated natural effect.

Just below blink left and right there are two sets of EyeWince ( 1 & 2 ) EyeWince 1 rises the lower lid. 2 is really more of a wince like for a face expression for a sharp pain. There are three times that you have to raise your lower eyelids. One is when you look up without moving your head, two is when you squint your eyes and three is when you sneeze.

Also when you smile!!!!!

I sit corrected...