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Subject: Wip opinions please!


Foxseelady ( ) posted Fri, 05 December 2003 at 11:26 PM · edited Sun, 24 November 2024 at 4:36 AM

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This is the second time this happened to me. Last time I just posted both lol. My daughter likes the one in the white light, so I'm going to post that one for her.

But for my own reference, wich one do you like or dislike? Any particular reason?


Larry F ( ) posted Fri, 05 December 2003 at 11:33 PM

White. Can see it better. Since you asked.


geep ( ) posted Fri, 05 December 2003 at 11:43 PM

White because the one on the right has too much contrast between the face and the white flowers on the right hand side of the pic ... since you ''axed''. ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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KarenJ ( ) posted Sat, 06 December 2003 at 4:17 AM

I prefer the pink one, although I think the light levels could be increased. Pink gives her a much softer look.


"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire


A_ ( ) posted Sat, 06 December 2003 at 5:06 AM

I'm with karen1573. :) And I do know this problem all too well... sometimes I have 10 versions of the same image on my PC. :))


A_ ( ) posted Sat, 06 December 2003 at 5:07 AM

Oh, but I'm on a laptop right now, so I might see the colors a bit weird.


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Sat, 06 December 2003 at 10:32 AM

I like the white the best (but it might be worth finding something between the two if you are undecided). I think the white shows the character better and it goes well with the flowers (if that matters to you).


nakamuram ( ) posted Sat, 06 December 2003 at 12:50 PM

White, because of the clarity and definition of the character. The character's skin textures are too dark for the pink light.


Dizzie ( ) posted Sat, 06 December 2003 at 1:24 PM

I think the white makes too much contrast between her clothes and skin...when I look at it my eyes jump to the dress and that takes away from her....the pink makes the image too dark...I'd find a color between the 2...


Foxseelady ( ) posted Sat, 06 December 2003 at 1:45 PM

Wow thanks so much for all your opinions! I hadn't noticed that the flowers on the pink one were still white, does look a bit off. I had not even once remembered that the light color could be adjusted a tad, or strengthened. Thanks to all your comments I have a better idea of things to look for in both the background, contrasts in textures and lighting strenths and mid colors. I really appreciate this alot. :)


hauksdottir ( ) posted Sun, 07 December 2003 at 12:27 AM

OK, neither of them. ;) The white one is poor because all you see is the bright white dress and hair. If men notice the dress and not the woman you usually need to change clothes, and I'm not even a man! You are also using BLACK as your ambiant color. Why???? She is not standing in a corridor of a dungeon game, she is standing outside in a garden. Ambiant color is what is around a person, in her case I might choose a bluish green at about 15% for the ambiant on dress and hair (shadows would capture a bit of the purplish blue from the sky dome, and there is a lot of green nearby) and a mauvish or chocolate ambiant for her skin. If you want to use the white image, I'd suggest lightening the background a lot and muting/blurring it so that the sharpest contrast is the design above her eyes... which ought to call attention to them. You may also need to tone down the dress a bit. The lighting in the pink image is better because it is on her face and pulls up the facial design. However, it isn't strong enough, and her skin is therefore too dark. You hardly see those lovely eyes. In this case, I'd darken/blur the background, especially the white flowers, and brighten her so that she stands forward of the flowers. The problem here is that she is lit from very low and everything else is lit from above, so merging her into the background will be trickier. With warmer light and surroundings, the ambiant color will be warmer, too... but it will be a color. HTH, Carolly


Foxseelady ( ) posted Sun, 07 December 2003 at 5:34 PM

Carolly I appreciate your blunt honesty! ;) Lighting is one of the many features of poser that I am not to familiar with. You made some good points there; I actually still have the file so I copied and pasted your suggestions to a notepad, I'm going to try them out. I had no idea what ambiant color was either lol. Honestly I just hopped right into poser and have done very little in the way of learning the tips and tricks to a really good picture. I usually just do one that is pleasing to me and that's that. Maybe I should slow it down and learn a bit of the more technical things? So thank you for the tips (and letting me know what ambiant color was!).


geep ( ) posted Sun, 07 December 2003 at 6:14 PM

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Hi Foxsee, I did this one for Sam ... but thought you might find it of interest. You might, also, be interested in [THIS ONE](http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?&Form.ShowMessage=1163810) about Poser's Spotlights. cheers, dr geep ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019



Foxseelady ( ) posted Sun, 07 December 2003 at 6:57 PM

dr.geep you are my hero lol. That not only helps with the lighting, but explains where my shadows always go lol. Thank you, I will check out the one at the link for the lighting help also. I appreciate your taking the time to help me out!


geep ( ) posted Sun, 07 December 2003 at 8:06 PM

The Doc is ... ... always glad to help out a "lady." ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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hauksdottir ( ) posted Sun, 07 December 2003 at 11:51 PM

Foxseelady, As Dr Geep says, the ambient light overrides shadows... but shadows in the real world are seldom pure black. Look at snow on a wintry day, and you will see that it is purplish-blue in the shadows as a complement to the yellow sunlight and the deep blue skydome color. Unless something is dead, I try to put some color into the shadow areas. There is a lot of bounced light which would take Poser forever to calculate. There are global light set-ups and the HDRI lighting setups, but my ancient G4 will creep in misery if I try to load the 40 or so lights! Upping the ambient just a little bit is a good way to fake the effect of bounced light. If you want to play with a blacklight effect, or glowing eyes in darkness, and other neat stuff, you can push the ambient way up. Robin Wood had a tutorial on her site for making vampire eyes this way, but it also works for cats and other nocturnal creatures. If you saw the Bladerunner movie many years ago, the replicants' eyes also flashed under certain conditions, and this trick could fake that as well. However, I tend to use things subtlely (after finding out what they can do at extremes). Play with it! :) Back to this image... I'm glad that you have the original files, hopefully in layers, so that you can adjust. You probably want the attention to be focussed upon her face, so be sure that is well-lit, and then pull the rest of the image into coordination. You can use contrast, depth-of-field, lighting and other techniques to direct the viewer's eye. Carolly PS, I'm glad that you took my remarks in the right spirit. I don't often comment upon WIPs because people can be too sensitive, but I appreciate it when someone is honest about my work... it is the only way to grow as an artist.


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Mon, 08 December 2003 at 8:08 PM

"PS, I'm glad that you took my remarks in the right spirit. I don't often comment upon WIPs because people can be too sensitive, but I appreciate it when someone is honest about my work... it is the only way to grow as an artist." Ahhhh, if more people were like this on give and take.


geep ( ) posted Mon, 08 December 2003 at 9:55 PM

Chuck, There's always that "2%" that f*** things up. What you need to do is focus on the 98% that don't, eh? cheers, dr geep ;=] P.S. *** = "oul"

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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