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Subject: Un-American Buildings


jwhitham ( ) posted Mon, 26 January 2004 at 7:54 PM · edited Fri, 07 February 2025 at 5:10 PM

Guitta's comment about European buildings, in Bountiful Knight's thread that she moved to the Wishing Well, started me thinking. Thinking about free stuff BTW, so there's no need to move this!

There really is a serious lack of European structures, in both the MP and Freestuff, and I'm in a bit of a modelling frenzy ATM - I've got two months to make 120+ low poly interactive web animations, done about 12 since Christmas :-( - Anyhow, I'm trying to get my hand back in to 3D modelling using freebie software, when I learned on high-end stuff, and I find architecture pretty easy - I trained as an architect many years ago - so if anybody wants to post good, clear images of European buildings they'd like as models, I'd relish the challenge as an exercise.

I'm not talking stuff like the Sagrada Familia here BTW, even Gaudi didn't live long enough to finish that, just ordinary everyday house and shop fronts. I can't guarantee to make everything anybody wants, but I am willing to have a try at most of them. Also, if anyone posts images it has to be on the understanding that models made from them will be made available to the whole community, via free stuff. Once I get around to finding some more web space that is!

John


Robot17 ( ) posted Mon, 26 January 2004 at 9:33 PM

Thanks for the offer John Bot


MightyPete ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 12:39 AM

Attached Link: http://www.emporis.info/

Above link for ideas. But the building below is the one I'd like to see 3d and free. I'd like to see some neat building. Stuff like the Vancouver Library. Ever seen that one? Man that's a cool building. Can't beleave they built it. http://www.virtualtourist.com/vt/dc80f/4/cc8/ http://www.theslowlane.com/03tripi/01.html http://www.opl.ottawa.on.ca/english/citizen/May9_1.htm Some picture here but a google search for picture Vancouver Library. One thing about it there is enough pictures of it around so you could actually build it will show many more sites. It's all brick. Jackpot ! http://collection.nlc-bnc.ca/100/202/300/greencart/latest/archive/cart1/feature-stories/arch/arch.html Ya it's a little complicated but not really. Yes I know it's not European. But are you sure?


hein ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 12:47 AM

Attached Link: http://www.greatbuildings.com/types/models/spatial_models.html

Some good models some not so good, all need texturing but there are a lot of non-US building in this list.


MightyPete ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 12:51 AM

Attached Link: http://www.towells.net/library/

More stuff here. It's a cool building there is lots of info on it. Guys making it out of lego here.


Robot17 ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 1:37 AM

Attached Link: http://members.iinet.net.au/~paulkoh/

Haven't checked the links in this thread but this is a great little site put together by this young guy in Australia with accurate diagrams of a bunch of buildings all over the world. His name is Damien Koh and the site includes detailed but simple elevations of buildings done in Illustrator. Even if its not of use to you I suggest checking it out. Bot


gebe ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 2:42 AM

Simple spanish houses, white, the kind you find on Ibiza island, Mallorca, Menorca would be fine too:-) but not only one kind, several to be able to build a small pueblo, a poblacion (sorry, I don't have the accent for the "o" on my keyboard). On the other side, I think Gaudi buildings are wow! they are beautiful but too complex, they would need all the Vue and computer's memory for just a small part of the Sagrada Familia, lol.


MightyPete ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 2:51 AM

Attached Link: http://cac.mcgill.ca/safdie/searchengines/showrecord.php?id=109

Here I found more infomation on this guy. He's designed a lot of famous buiding all over the world let lone Vancouver library. His site is a little slow and it works without flash. http://www.msafdie.com/# http://blackader.library.mcgill.ca/safdie/ http://cac.mcgill.ca/safdie/searchengines/showrecord.php?id=109 44 pages of buiding here. Lots with plans. Hmm found the blue prints here. I looked for them on google and they refused to show up. I found this way threw great buildings online. Who whould have figured.


jwhitham ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 5:33 PM

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Thanks everyone for the the excellent links! Have to say though that I wasn't looking for great public buildings. I was hoping that peeps might just stick their digicams out the door and get the house opposite, even their own, just normal streets like most of us live in.

Anyway, got a lot of food for thought - I've always loved the Chrysler building - and there's a lot of great reference material there.

Guitta, I'd love to make some of those pueblos if I could just find some good enough photo references. If I google for images of those islands though, just get hotels and rental villas :(

MightyPete, can see where you're coming from with Vancouver library. It looks like a a major project to do the whole thing though. I've modelled and rendered part of an end facade from the references you provided (see above), be interesting to know if it's recognisable to someone who has actually seen it!

John


MightyPete ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 7:07 PM

Ya I've seen it. It's a remarkable building. My favorite I think. The scale is unreal. Those on one side the outer ring. Those highrises how the appear unfinnished or in runes even though they're not. Walking down the raised hallways in between the two rings. The higth of that hallway. It's very impressive. It would be a cool backdrop or render for any ones project. Your mesh looks like a good start. In a way it's just a regular 7 story square office building hidden inside that unreal brickwork. 190 million dollars worth of em. Well thats what the entire building cost. If you look threw that McGill univesity link I posted you can see quite a few buildings this guy has done and some are quite simple easy to make stuff like Epicot? The building still exists and I actually been inside that one too. Easy to make, would be cool to render sticking out of a cliff face or something. The simple buildings I like the best are the churches in Greece. There cool and there all some how different. No two the same. Regular houses here are too boring.


Robot17 ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 9:06 PM

FYI The Chrylser Building is at 3d Cafe as a 3ds file Bot


Sacred Rose ( ) posted Wed, 28 January 2004 at 11:43 PM

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In all the time I have been online ***NO-ONE has ever*** mentioned *La Sagrada Familia*! I thank you John, most sincerely! My daughter and I were discussing its status just a few weeks ago. She and I were looking through some of the photos we had.. I am astounded by the lack of discussion on it(non spanish/european web sites), aside from the occassional discussions between europeans themselves, no body seems to know of it's existence :/ This is truly a loss for so many...the sheer presence of the architecture itself, the intricacies of the sculpted statues, not to mention the beautiful sculpted friezes of the torrets and their bases beg for this rememberance!! I only pray this magnificent wonder withstands mankinds 'seemingly determined' efforts to nuke their worlds to show future generations the wealth that lies within!! For those un-initiated with this wonder this photo is a closeup of one of the entrances ;) ~beck *a stunned spaniard, still doing snoopy dances over John's mention of it's (the church's)name* ;)


gebe ( ) posted Thu, 29 January 2004 at 4:16 AM

Most Europeans knows this famous church, as it is in Barcelona and as Spain is very much visited by nearly all Europeans:-).


gebe ( ) posted Thu, 29 January 2004 at 4:26 AM

Attached Link: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/ags/GAUDI.htm

See some more of Antonio Gaudi's architectural work here (it is in Spanish language, but there are nice photos).


MightyPete ( ) posted Fri, 30 January 2004 at 3:51 PM

Sacred Rose: Of course but that defies the concept of simple. Imagine trying to make such a building into a mesh? I could think of a lot of samples like that but I don't think anyone will build them cause there too complex for most.


gebe ( ) posted Fri, 30 January 2004 at 3:59 PM

Yes MP that's what I said above in post #7: " I think Gaudi buildings are wow! they are beautiful but too complex, they would need all the Vue and computer's memory for just a small part of the Sagrada Familia, lol". :-)


jwhitham ( ) posted Fri, 30 January 2004 at 6:51 PM

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I don't think Sacred Rose was saying the Sagrada Familia should be 3D modelled, but that it's celebrity as a structure is hugely underrated, and I agree. In both engineering and aesthetic terms, it is the greatest building I've ever visited.

Unfortunately (IMHO) the importance of a structure in the minds of the general public has more to do with the success of travel companies marketing simple, iconic, images of their client destinations and the willingness of those destinations to accept such as their logotypes, than it does with the intrinsic value of those structures. Consider France: what does the world know of French architecture? Centre Pompidou, Arc de Triomphe, Tour Eiffel? To me that's childish stuff compared with the cathedrals of Chartres or Narbonne!

Gustave Eiffel is an interesting case as an underrated architect, everybody knows his pylon in central Paris, a few less know that he designed the structural elements of the Statue of Liberty in New York harbour, how many know the viaduct over the gorge of Garabit in SW France (see image)? Eiffel finished this structure in 1884, so it's one of the worlds oldest steel structure - for me about the most elegant to date and, at 122 metres (400 feet) high, still amongst the tallest - designed to carry slow light gauge steam trains but now supporting a high speed electric railroad, and still not looking like falling down. I love this bridge, and I've spent many happy hours just sitting and staring at it, as I have the Sagrada Familia.

John


MightyPete ( ) posted Sat, 31 January 2004 at 6:50 PM

Ever seen the "Cast Iron Bridge? " It's in Britain some where. That would also make a cool mesh.


jwhitham ( ) posted Sat, 31 January 2004 at 8:05 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12402&Form.ShowMessage=1643428&Reply=1643430#2

MightyPete, born and raised in Britain I'm aware of Ironbridge - actually THE oldest metal structure in the world. Anyway, I'm on with Vancouver Library ATM, posting progress in the modeling forum - see link - as nobody ever goes there I'm unlikely to be judged off topic :-)


gebe ( ) posted Sun, 01 February 2004 at 9:28 AM

Your post in the modeling forum is from January 31. Today is February 1. Many people are going there but maybe not every day and maybe not over the weekend. It is not as alife as the Vue Forum. So just be patient a week or so:-). Anyhow, the model looks very impressive!


jwhitham ( ) posted Sun, 01 February 2004 at 7:08 PM

Guitta, I wasn't complaining about lack of response on the modeling forum. I was just trying to tell MightyPete that I am working on his pet building, but that as this isn't really the place for updates on what is essentially a modeling project, to look in that forum for updates. You've scolded both of us for being OT before you know. John


MightyPete ( ) posted Mon, 02 February 2004 at 4:22 PM

Don't click on that link I never posted it !. This puter is jinked ! Obviously taken over by spyware. Winders Y2K no wonder..


MightyPete ( ) posted Mon, 02 February 2004 at 4:30 PM

Attached Link: http://knoten.caca.biz/

Oww Ahhh ya building my fav building... Excellent !


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