I am running into serious trouble doing renderings in Poser. I know that when you hit the render button, it looks as if the system crashes, but it doesn't (though that's a feature that definitely needs improvement - it would be nice too if the render engine, instead of telling you what it is doing (..."adding objects"...) would tell you how long the render will take). However, if even a draft render hasn't shown up after 30 minutes, something's not right, is it? Last night I decided to give the much touted Firefly renderer a serious try, and make a high quality rendering of a very besic scene: 1 M3 figure, textured, with two items of clothing (one morphing), hair, and one extra light. Nothing fancy, I would say. Nonetheless, it took Poser literally all night to come up with an image, in which the additional light was absent. I also found a warning on my screen the next morning, saying that the system had reverted to using the hard drive for extra storage due to "lack of virtual memory". Excuse me???? I am working in Windows XP Home on a Pentium 4 machine with a 60 GB hard drive, 1 GB ram, and a brand new nVidia GeForce fx5950 256Mb graphics card. Intricate Vue scenes with millions of polygons and complex light and shadow effects are rendered without any problems. So what's going wrong here??? I was running no other programs beside Poser, btw, and even switched off my screensaver! If this is normal in Poser, I hate to think what would happen if I tried to render a scene with multiple figures!

Increase your virtual memory settings. Poser relies on those settings native to the system, while Vue creates it's own effective swap file. It sounds like you have windows managing them for you, which tends to really muck things up. Right click my computer | Advanced tab | performance -- settings button | Advanced Tab | little button almost at the bottom that says change | set up your VM on a drive that is separate from your windows installtion and ideally from your poser installation as well if possible, and set it to a custome size of at minimum 1024 and a maximum of 3096 or more. Then click set, ok out, reboot, and you should be ok.

IMHO, that sounds WAY wrong. I have no problem rendering 1024x780 images using multiple M3/V3/S3 type figures in a few minutes (2gHz Athlon, 1gb RAM, 120 gb HDD). Perhaps a virus? I have had a problem with W32pinfi virus completely killing .exes.

Check this web page for help in speeding up Firefly. http://www.keindesign.de/stefan/poser/renderer.html In it's default settings Firefly is slower then frozen mud!!!!

Searching on the word "insufficient" turns up the following: (this doesn't count any threads where the person spelled the word "insufficeint").

1/30/04 - By Phantast Re: Does altering a non-commercial item make it legal to use in commercial rend 1/26/04 - By crowbar Re: Insufficient Disk Space question 1/16/04 - By crowbar Poser Tip : memory and Hard Drive "virtual memory" 1/6/04 - By pjanak Re: Infuriating "Insufficient memory to render at current resolution" error 12/5/03 - By bjbrown Re: About to Buy Poser but have 2 questions 11/29/03 - By JoeyAristophanes Re: Pathetic plea from new to mac user :-( 11/26/03 - By Bobbie_Boucher Re: "insufficient disk space" message AGAIN!! 11/14/03 - By iggy23 Re: insufficient disk space to render at the current resolution 11/8/03 - By Zarabanda Re: GRRR please someone that knows how to fix this pllllllllllleaaaaaaaaase 10/23/03 - By cappy3 P4 Tech Problem 10/7/03 - By Yamato How about P5 Judy? Wanted ! your opinion. 10/6/03 - By EnglishBob Re: Will increasing my virtual memory make Poser work faster? 9/29/03 - By JVRenderer Re: Fantasy Bow Problem 9/29/03 - By JVRenderer Re: Quarker's Hairs 8/9/03 - By EnglishBob Re: insufficient disk space to render at the current resolution 8/3/03 - By SamTherapy Re: rendering error messages 8/2/03 - By ragmanjones Re: Poser V4 Memory "Hint" and Comment... 7/30/03 - By dialyn Re: Textures! Argh! 7/28/03 - By ljudice Poser V4 Memory "Hint" and Comment... 7/27/03 - By blunx looking for opinions from Poser animators w/ Vue+Mover experience 7/27/03 - By kuroyume0161 Re: Stolen Artwork, might be yours (go to the Copyright Forum) 7/21/03 - By dlk30341 Render problems need some help please 7/15/03 - By spurlock5 Re: Anyone here use 3D studio Max/ 6/29/03 - By Placebo Re: memory help 6/25/03 - By nomuse Re: Nice to see the art of trolling isn't dead 6/9/03 - By agiel Poser 5, XP and 1Gb of RAM... and still freezes ? 6/6/03 - By nikitacreed Re: Recognize any of these images???? 5/29/03 - By Replicant Help! Help! Its lying to me! 5/27/03 - By Nance Re: Rendering Problem 5/25/03 - By nakamuram Re: keep getting an "insufficient disk space" message 5/10/03 - By queri Re: Poser 5 Service Release 3 is now available 4/9/03 - By queri Re: Render Problem 4/6/03 - By BeatYourSoul Re: Render problem after conversion to NTFS 4/1/03 - By mrp2284 Re: Insufficient Disk Space to Render at the Current Resolution?! 3/20/03 - By PeterWahoo Re: Help! Reinstalled ProPack and Strange Things are Happening 3/9/03 - By Spit Re: Insufficient Disk Space BS 2/25/03 - By Nance Re: Richabri's rock stage - Really worth a look! 2/20/03 - By cinevid Long time "Lurker" needs help 2/10/03 - By queri Re: No disk space in the current resolution... 2/10/03 - By SamTherapy Re: Poser User Interface Stability? 2/4/03 - By queri Re: "Insufficient disc space for current render" 1/9/03 - By bitplayer Are you SURE it's unethical? 1/6/03 - By GhostWolf Help needed 1/5/03 - By queri Memory fix!!! 1/1/03 - By jwhitham Re: Objaction Mover - range check error 12/27/02 - By queri Insufficient memory fix 12/23/02 - By denden Re: Maximum size image 12/18/02 - By kramer99 Be Careful....Major Credit Card Problem Ordering Poser 5 11/13/02 - By Kelderek Re: recommended hardware? 11/12/02 - By Nosfiratu ***** CURIOUS LABS RELEASES POSER 5 SR-2 BETA 4 ***** 11/1/02 - By Dagon Re: Help 10/28/02 - By jval Re: The Tailor and MIMIC: DAZ can we ever expect Poser 5 compatibility? 10/25/02 - By DefaultGuy SR2-2 Beta release is now available 10/18/02 - By queri Re: It must Friday cause it;'s time for the Memory fix-- Again 10/16/02 - By kupa CURIOUS LABS RELEASES BETA SERVICE RELEASE 2 FOR POSER 5 10/16/02 - By Crescent sr2 beta 1 info from CL web site 10/13/02 - By lordbyron Re: Look who's coming to dinner! 10/13/02 - By hankim Re: Render out of memory problem. I need help please... 10/9/02 - By jval Re: WTB's State of the Poser Union 10/4/02 - By Himico Poser5 problem---please help. 10/3/02 - By Corum_Anime HELP! "Insufficient disk to render at current res" 10/2/02 - By Nance Re: A nother Newbie question - - - sorry 10/2/02 - By narsil Re: P5 rendering problem 9/30/02 - By kupa Poser 5 updater status 9/25/02 - By Tempus Fugit P5 won't render big - arrgh 9/18/02 - By hankim Re: Not enough memorty error 9/13/02 - By queri Time to once again post the XP-- and others-- fix. 9/10/02 - By lordbyron Re: Open letter to Curious Labs 9/8/02 - By isaacnewton Re: When? poser5 shipments question for CL people 9/4/02 - By AliasAngel insufficient disk space??? 8/27/02 - By xoconostle Re: Memory problems 8/21/02 - By Orio Re: European Poser 5 Customers = "Dumbass"? 8/21/02 - By reiss-studio Re: European Poser 5 Customers = "Dumbass"? 8/19/02 - By demosthenes_aborigin Re: where can I find togas or other classical Greek outfits? 8/17/02 - By crisjon1950 Re: I'm having trouble. 8/3/02 - By queri Insufficient memory Fix 7/31/02 - By Eric Walters Re: Poser newbie ready to bang her head against a wall... 7/13/02 - By ronknights Re: A tip for anyone who's as dumb as I am...if that's possible. :-) 7/12/02 - By ronknights Re: A tip for anyone who's as dumb as I am...if that's possible. :-) 7/4/02 - By serpentis Re: Insufficient Disk Space... 6/13/02 - By ronknights Re: Out of Memory Problem 6/13/02 - By ronknights Re: Placement of runtime folder during defragging... 6/13/02 - By xoconostle Re: Rendering times and what goes into them (need info) 6/13/02 - By kuroyume0161 Re: template ? 6/12/02 - By sergemarck Re: Back to period fashion 6/10/02 - By ronknights Re: Please help-- how much space does Poser Need to render? 6/9/02 - By hendrikm "insufficient disk space" while rendering 6/9/02 - By queri Re: Please help-- how much space does Poser Need to render? 6/1/02 - By ronknights Re: Just about had it with Poser 5/30/02 - By ronknights Re: Ok, ok, so I just had to know! 5/24/02 - By JoeBlack Re: ok, could anyone tell me what's wrong with this MAT??? 5/18/02 - By soulhuntre Re: Insufficient disk space to render fix? 4/25/02 - By ronknights Re: Memory issues with Poser 4/24/02 - By 6Dprime Re: Poser blight? 3/26/02 - By lukedesade Re: Newbie question on props 3/24/02 - By boblowery Re: Rendering Crash 2/19/02 - By ronknights Re: Ring my bell - Why does Poser keep doing it 2/18/02 - By Eowyn Re: Things about Poser that make me go aaaarrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhh! 2/10/02 - By ronknights Re: SteffyZZ and Windows98SE 2/4/02 - By Eowyn Re: Daz Hi-Res Textures 1/19/02 - By PabloS Re: Odd error message 1/11/02 - By JimYount Help on rendering larger files on Win2K 12/25/01 - By Bevel Re: Insufficient Disk Space... URGENT! 12/17/01 - By soulhuntre Re: Insufficient disk space to render at current resolution? 12/17/01 - By JABevan Re: Insufficient Disk Space... URGENT! 12/14/01 - By JABevan Re: Insufficient disk space error, help me 12/14/01 - By JABevan Re: Insufficient disk space to render at current resolution? 12/14/01 - By JABevan Re: Possible fix for "insufficient disk space to render at current res" issue 12/14/01 - By JABevan Re: Render error: Insufficient Disk Space to Render at This Resolution 12/9/01 - By tritorella Re: Memory problems while rendering - MAC 11/26/01 - By Nance Wait! 11/3/01 - By ronknights Re: Memory error (PC), Help! (new user) 10/31/01 - By dkirk New features in version 6.1 10/25/01 - By curtechman FIX_WORK AROUND forInsufficient disk space to render at current resolution? 10/19/01 - By ronknights Re: Adding Memory To Poser 10/7/01 - By Marque Re: LifeForms Who uses this program? 8/16/01 - By duanemoody morphability of P4 characters 8/16/01 - By Nance Re: Render error: Insufficient Disk Space to Render at This Resolution

Sorry that the above message ends with 8/1/01... the search returned results going back to 1999, but the forum posting only allowed 30,000 characters, so I couldn't fit the entire result into one posting. I guess I could have posted links to the other threads in this post, but hopefully, these will provide you the answer you're looking for.

Still, I dont seem to be the only one with this problem... Thats some comfort. However, increasing virtual memory to 3000 Mb didnt make any difference. I saw another post that made me wonder if this is my problem: 2. Re: How do i asign more memory to poser 4? by EnglishBob on 2/4/04 10:03 That message is a catch-all Poser error which often means that it can't find some part of the thing you're trying to open; usually the OBJ geometry. Is something like this mentioned in the error message? The render does seem to get stuck at the "adding objects" stage.

What hair are you using? If it's Neftis hair, you may have trouble rendering it in Firefly even if there's not much else in the scene. Neftis uses very large textures, and a lot of them, and Firefly often chokes on them, unless you have a very powerful computer indeed. The solution is to render with the P4 renderer, or to reduce the size of the textures. (The hair still looks good with the textures reduced to 1/4 the size.)

Randym, thank you so much - thats it! Rendering in the P4 renderer was no problem, I had the draft render in less than a minute; next, I threw out the hair (Mihai from Daz), and than I could render it with Firefly as well!

Glad I could help. :-) And I hope this doesn't put you off either Neftis hair or Firefly. They are both pretty cool. They just don't play nicely together.

Yes....the Neftis hair does present problems with firefly (or vise versa!) A note about setting memory with Windows XP: Not sure about the home version, but my XP Pro makes those memory adjustments automatically when a render is using more resources that are available. You'll get a little yellow triangle popup warning and then XP will simply shut down things that aren't needed to free up resources and allocate more memory to the rendering process. Pretty slick if you ask me!

Actually, the main benefit I got from changing the memory settings is a much faster start-up! So it is worthwhile I think to fiddle with it...