Ok, Please be brutal! I think this is as close as I'm gonna get using P5 Face Room. Thanks to all again for your continueing patience, comments, and tips. Whoever it was that posted the Gubinator wire mesh and photo overlay last month, Thanks so much! Remembering that post I went back to PS7 and did the same until I got it to this point. so, please don't hold back I need to know. I have people waiting for an animation at the RHPS home site. "You're spaced out on sensation..." "Like you're under seda-a-a-tion!" "Let's do the Time Warp again!"