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Subject: WIP (Very early) - Pandaemonium


drawbridgep ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 9:13 AM · edited Tue, 11 February 2025 at 12:04 AM

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Long before the character in Harry Potter there was Mulciber. A fallen angel who designed Pandaemonium, capital of Hell and the setting for the demonic council.

I wanted to do a picture in the style of the illustrations for Paradise Lost or Dante's Inferno.

I plan on putting Mulciber in the foreground (hence the ledge in the bottom right). Maybe showing Lucifer what he has created. But my machine crashed and I lost poser and my installation disks are a few thousand miles away.

If anyone feels like sending me a poser male model, just in a default stance, nude and textureless is perfect, I'd be really grateful.

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hyperborea ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 9:48 AM

Looks very impressive Draw! Hope you'll make the figure in front rather small so the scale of the construction will be enormous. Beautiful atmosphere already :-) W&M


pogmahone ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 10:11 AM

Looks really great. Message me if you still need the Poser figure. Surely we could do a bit better than the default pose!


Incarnadine ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 11:30 AM

I have a demon who might work well in this. Send me an IM if you would like to use him.

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vasquez ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 12:29 PM

that's really a great image! the mood of the image is impressive.


drawbridgep ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 1:25 PM

Thanks to Pogmahone for the poser model. Here's the posted version. GalleryThumb633277.jpg

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Damia ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 1:47 PM

That looks great! I love that sort of image. You did a great job. :)

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pogmahone ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 2:48 PM

The lattices worked great for wings :)


Swade ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 5:32 PM

This is a really cool image. I really like it. I like hyperborea's idea to make the character smaller so as to make the environment look huge. Nice work. Wade

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 5:58 PM

I decided to do them to scale. I sized the figure so he fit in the building and then brought him into the foreground. So, the building is a looooonnnngggg way away.

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diolma ( ) posted Tue, 23 March 2004 at 6:10 PM

Hmmm. It works for me -- but I also like hyperborea's idea. May I humbly suggest reducing the figure size to 75%, and try the result? Might make the building look more menacing.. Cheers, Diolma



danamo ( ) posted Wed, 24 March 2004 at 1:19 AM

some brill work here if you ask me! Love the tonality of it. It also reminds me of a backdrop of an early Georges Melies film. Definitely not your average Bryce-looking render!


tjohn ( ) posted Wed, 24 March 2004 at 1:38 AM

Drawbridgep: I would like to see a version where the figure is tiny, yet large enough so that you can still tell what it is. It's a great environment, but the relative size of demon to building makes the building look small and the demon look large, due to the 2D nature of the final image (great image, BTW) and the way that both of these objects lie on the same basic plane in the pic, the viewer just doesn't get the sense of distance, even though in Bryce units they are very far apart. Black and white is nice here, and I would keep it, but you do lose the sense of atmosphere that a bluish haze can add to the feeling of depth and distance, and that is missing here (which is why I am suggesting these changes :^) ). Another approach that comes to me would be to raise the roof, double the size of the building, leave the demon as is and reorient the image to render portrait rather landscape. This would accomplish the same thing, and I think the image might look better tall than wide. My 2 cents. John

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 24 March 2004 at 12:24 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions. I've taken a lot on board and created this. I tried a version with the figure tiny, but it was just too far from the original idea that it didn't sit right with me. Hopefully this new version (although it is different from my idea in any case) works a bit better. I did lose the desaturated version, since I think the colours looks quite cool. I might shop it and post here, but the colour one stays in the gallery. SO in the end, there's more postwork cause I used about 4 layers, but less filter work which makes it a bit purer to Bryce I think. I'm happy. GalleryThumb633948.jpg

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 24 March 2004 at 12:41 PM

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Here's a mono version, but using a sepia grad adjustment instead of just desaturating it.

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