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Subject: ~~~June Poser Forum Challenge - B Movie Poster - Theme Thread~~~


EricofSD ( ) posted Sun, 06 June 2004 at 9:52 PM · edited Fri, 15 November 2024 at 9:34 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/contest.ez?contest_id=343

Ok, the June challenge is up. Courtesy of Predatron, we get to make a movie poster for B grade movies. Any questions regarding the theme should be asked in this thread. And the theme is: Something related to B Movie Poster. The Attack of the B Movie Poster -------------------------------- Using Poser design a poster that shows the look and feel of a 1940/50's B Movie. It should have at least one character (two or more is ok) and can be any B Movie theme (Horror, Sci-Fi, Fantasy) and can be a film you've made up yourself or based on an actual B Movie. Humour is to be encouraged, but not essential. Also the final image can be either Black and White or Colour, and the dimensions to be either portrait or landscape, so 800 x 600 or 600 x 800. You can include as much or as little text about the film as you wish, film title, strapline or the cast. You could get some ideas from www.bmonster.com. or www.greatest-posters.com/movies/c101182-classic-movies.html. Lastly postwork is actively encouraged as well.


SpiceBunny ( ) posted Sun, 06 June 2004 at 10:40 PM

ohhh interesting :)


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randym77 ( ) posted Mon, 07 June 2004 at 10:55 AM

No implied sexuality or violence on a B-movie poster? What's the point? ;-)


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Mon, 07 June 2004 at 4:58 PM

Now there's an interesting subject for the challenge :o)

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EricofSD ( ) posted Tue, 08 June 2004 at 2:59 AM

I hate this timeout where we lose the text!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


EricofSD ( ) posted Tue, 08 June 2004 at 3:00 AM

I really hate this. Type for a while and its gone!


EricofSD ( ) posted Tue, 08 June 2004 at 3:32 AM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/%7Epzr/backroom/html/challengerules.htm

Ok, randyman77, you ask a good question and its time we consider a relaxation of the challenge rules for **this June challenge only.** The challenge rules say: This is open to all ages and viewing by family and minors. Keep it clean and keep it classy. If you push the limit and the image draws attention to the limit, you may be asked to make adjustments. **(This means what it says. Keep it tasteful. If you want to be controversial, that's probably going to be ok but if its over the top with what folks would normally see around town, its not ok. Think about what the marketeers and producers would approve for a poster. They want folks to look at the poster and go see the movie. They do not want to make a political statement with the poster and lose the revenue.)** The specific rules are: "Nudity" means the showing of the genitals, pubic area or buttocks with less than a full opaque covering, or the showing of the female breast with less than a fully opaque covering below the top of the areola line, or the depiction of covered male genitals in a discernibly turgid state. Cleavage is allowed. **(I would think that many movie posters have see through clothing and some imagery of nudity. We can be a bit more open than the above rule. Ok, if its tasteful, I'll probably let it fly. I do not want to see overgrown dual airbags or sausages in the face, so again, keep it tasteful. If you have any doubts, post and I'll get back to you or IM me and I'll respond. I wouldn't wait until the 11th hour for this though.)** "Cleavage" means that portion of the breast above the areola line and within the middle third of the chest. Cleavage may go below the top of the areola provided that it does not reveal more than the middle third of the chest. **(For the life of me, I can't imagine a B grade movie poster for a romance movie that doesn't have deep cleavage. But perhaps you can. I won't get out the tape measure on this one as long as its out of our faces and within the TOS. Again, if you are in doubt, IM or post and I'll get back to you.)** "Sexual activity" means representations or descriptions of sexual acts, normal or perverted, actual or simulated. **(I would allow heterosexual kissing for a romance poster. Homosexual kissing and poses are not often seen in movie posters so that's that. Remember, the movie is going to be where the sex is so don't give it all away on the poster.)** "Violence" means any depiction of bodily injury to a humanoid model, or any part thereof, or placing a humanoid model in threat of fear of imminent physical harm which, taken as a whole, portrays the image in a patently offensive way to the average adult applying the TOS, these definitions, and community standards. **(Well, if you want to have a gun pointed at the bad guy or a body flying from an explosion, I'll go for that. Lets stay away from the dripping blood and Hannible Lecter scene of flesh eating. Remember the other Hannible? Hannible Smith of the A-Team? Tons of bullets and no blood? I'm sure you can figure out violence without the demonic graphic dripping stuff. There's got to be a way to do a vampire or Buffy, or monster, or cowboy/war shoot-em-up scene without the hard core gore. Again, ask or IM and don't wait until the 11th hour to post if you feel your image is over the top.)**


EricofSD ( ) posted Tue, 08 June 2004 at 3:48 AM

Ok with the above said, I can also say that you MUST remain within the TOS and any images that are too far over the top which I might be inclined to disallow will be looked over by at least one other staff member. I will not disapprove an image without a second opinion. Best luck to all.


Predatron ( ) posted Tue, 08 June 2004 at 8:23 AM

I think that the TOS for this competition will apply as much for the Poser Challenge as it does for marketing posters for actual films. So I think there's still a lot scope to produce some good art without being over the top. I also realise that the 'B Movie' is generally a genre that explores horror, violence and sexual subjects, but you never really see a 'B Movie poster' or any other movie poster that would cause too much offence to the viewer. Afterall, I see the aim of the challenge as an exercise to produce a poster, not a scene from the movie. So I'm really looking forward to see them entries.

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EricofSD ( ) posted Thu, 10 June 2004 at 12:44 AM

Attached Link: http://www.free-definition.com/B-movie.html

Oh, I just learned that some of our members from other countries have not heard this expression "B Movie" and wonder what in the heck we are talking about. So here's my shot at a definition. In America we sometimes refer to the quality of a movie like a school child's report card. An "A" is the top grade. "A" movies are like all the star movies such as Lord of the Rings and all the award winning films. They're great. Good actors, great filming, wonderful plot, etc. A "B" movie is one that is generally cheap to make (though not always, just ask Kevin Costner) and always has something wrong with it. Usually bad acting or a stupid plot, but not so bad as to be a movie that nobody wants to see. "B" movies are sometimes copy cats of other better movies. There is something of low grade humor about them, often not intended, but there none the less. We had a series of westerns about a character called "Trinity". It was supposed to be a serious western movie series (I think) and I believe they were filmed in Italy but they were done so badly (and even had lipsynch translation problems with them) that we found it to be a real laugh. We called them "spagetti westerns" and sometimes they were fun enough that folks would buy the tape and play them over and over. Sometimes as the quality of movies increases over time and technology, a movie that was once considered an A movie becomes a B movie. Examples of that would be the original Planet of the Apes series. Golan and Globus were two producers who specialized in low quality low budget films and most of them were worth watching. They actually made stars like Jean Claue van Dam in Cyborg, and Charles Bronson in Death Wish, and Chuck Norris in the Viet Nam "Braddock" movies. The posters that advertise B movies never say that on the poster, but often the producer knows and simply does not spend money on high quality posters. So the posters tend to be low quality as well and sometimes downright awful. Take a look at the posters on those two web sites that Predatron gave, you'll get the idea. There is definitley humor in "B" movies and sometimes its a dry humor or subtle one. There are "C" movies but we usually don't talk about those. They're pretty bad. I'm thinking the black and white Godzilla movies qualify. So a "B" movie is a little bit odd, but still fun to watch and they almost always are action flics. Sometimes just romance. The link above is a good definition of a B movie.


SpiceBunny ( ) posted Thu, 10 June 2004 at 11:48 AM

i just got one question ... where do we post our works btw? because all i see is this "Would you like to post an entry in the contest? No entries are being accepted at this time." at the June Poser Challenge page.


AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Thu, 10 June 2004 at 1:49 PM

It's worth remembering that the B-Movie, and hence the posters, have their roots in the Hollywood of the classic era, when films were shorter, and the custom was to have a programme of 2 movies, and a "short", and newsreels; something which was more like a night watching TV than the way a modern cinema runs. Often the second movie was a B-movie. They were shorter, lower-budget, films. Cliched, perhaps, and the posters often were, but hardly bad. Also, you might get them re-using sets and costumes from the big movies, but the setting was often the here-and-now, or some commonplace genre like a Western. And a commonplace of the movie posters, for the more action-filled movies, was the torn female clothing that looked as though it might fall off. And a poster image is one meant to sell the film, not get the film or the advert banned. A silhoutte in a window, rather than a full picture, for instance.


EricofSD ( ) posted Thu, 10 June 2004 at 9:26 PM

DOH! SpiceBunny, thanks for that. I made the challenge active now so you can post your entry.


SpiceBunny ( ) posted Fri, 11 June 2004 at 11:25 AM

And a commonplace of the movie posters, for the more action-filled movies, was the torn female clothing that looked as though it might fall off. lol. that sounds like our basic renders over here. and thanks eric :) ... with new info about b-movies - i reckon i could come up something nice and sexy and b-movie type. wonders if gone with the wind is one of those type of movie


AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Fri, 11 June 2004 at 12:21 PM

No, Gone With The Wind isn't one of those type of movie. But a B-movie might use some shots from the Burning of Atlanta sequence for a burning city anywhere in the world. Partly because of the studio system, there were a lot of shots taken from big expensive epics and used as background events for less expensive movies. Quite a few from the 1939 version of The Four Feathers show up in British movies of the Fifties, partly because they were in colour. Star Wars has a streak of the B-movie to it. So does Alien. But it's the movies which hitched a ride on the bandwagon which are better examples. You do know that Ronald Reagan might have starred in Casablanca</1>?


SpiceBunny ( ) posted Fri, 11 June 2004 at 12:35 PM

O_o ... torn female clothing that looked as though it might fall off sounds far applicable now, come to think of it. i so need to look through sites that have posters of b-movie.


pakled ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2004 at 3:55 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=697624&Start=1&Artist=pakled&ByArtist=Yes

well, that'll teach me to pay attention..entirely on my own, I've done one recently..but since it has Bryce, Corel Draw, etc in it, I'm sure it's not eligable..but if you want a peek.

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AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2004 at 4:57 PM

That's a pretty good example, Pakled. It doesn't look as if I shall get my effort finished. I got distracted by dentistry, birthdays, and getting an old camera lens to work properly [kicks excuse generator].


EricofSD ( ) posted Sat, 26 June 2004 at 6:15 PM

Pakled, as long as the final render was in Poser and finished after the start of the challenge, its OK. You can (and in this challenge must) go to postwork, so that's OK too. If in your postwork you alpha channel in more stuff, that's ok too. A Bryce render with Poser content is not ok. The final render must be Poser. However, a Bryce background in Poser is OK. I think this particular challenge lends well to multi app images as long as final render is Poser with some Poser characters etc in the scene.


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