These are very interesting, but a pain to get into. = )

TIA

Message edited on: 12/21/2004 19:25

I'm not sure why you say they're a pain to get into. The web has hundreds of pages dedicated to them, as a Google search will reveal. Also, there are newsgroups like alt.binaries.pictures.stereo in which you can ask questions directly to stereo photographers and cgi artists.

Perhaps a better way to drum up interest is to post images to the gallery. Random OT messages to a Vue forum probably won't do much good.

Message edited on: 12/22/2004 01:08

Suggestions about new forums are probably best addressed in the Community Forum; you're more likely to catch the eye of the admin team over there than you are posting in a particular software forum.

Moving the discussion to the Community Center.

dlk30341,
Stereograms are 3D images hidden within another picture. ;) Here is one such place you can check some out :) http://www.eyetricks.com/3dstereo.htm

Message edited on: 12/22/2004 13:58

Yes, you are correct Djeser, makes it much easier for us to find. Thanks for moving it in here agiel. Now that you have my attention Angelouscuitry, maybe you can elaborate on what a stereogram is. Sorry, but I am not familiar with this. Is this something the community would have a lot of interest in possibly? Please share your thoughts, and we'll go from there. Happy holidays, and best wishes, Lillian

LillianH - Yes, M'am! Stereograms are another perpective of what 3D really is. We have our standard Render Engines, here at renderosity, like Poser, Vue, etc. The images they produce are very crisp, but much more photographic than 3D really. A stereogram is the polar opposite, it gives you the feeling you are looking at something tangable, but they are very difficult to observe. What they are is a tile repeated over and over again, but with very particular attention paid to spaceing, so that with a keen sense of perspective you can notice a 3D figure from the tiles' spacing. The image on the tile really does'nt matter, allthough it's much nicer to see sterograms with tiles of the image you're looking for than without or with what I would call TV Fuzz as you you sometimes see them made with. A first, the image looks just looks like mush. But the idea is to stare at the picture for 5 minutes, slightly changing your focus, left and right, untill the background, behind the 3D figure you're looking for, seems to actually fall back a few inches/feet, and the an object the was once invisible is now apparent! It's really an exciting experience. And it has to do with 3D Geometry files and Depth Maps, so it's right up Renderosity's alley! Personally I think the easyest way to first view one of these images is, as I did, with a poster on a wall, from 4 feet away, but I've seen a couple here and there on my PC. The best application I've used so far is SisGen, a free utility that gets the job done, with depth maps, but I've had a lot of problems getting anything near poster size done. Magic 3D looks like a really simple program to get started with these, allthough it's only shareware, and the same poster size problems happen. I've seen a tutorial for using GIMP, and Blender to do these, but ha'nt got it together. This would be ideal I think as you have the choice between using an actuall 3D File over just it's depth Map. Stereogram Explorer is application using 3D files, but allthough it's setup on my computer I ca'nt get a basic render. Magiceye.com is a nice custom gallery, but they are'nt very interested in helping you get it done for yourself. I'm very interested in this because I have an M2 Angel Figure I spent a lot of time on that would be a great figure to make one from, I think! Another reason this would be very nice at renderosity is that we could have a backroom for all this, with more freeware! kongorilla - I'm not sure how it got onto the Vue forum, I posted this here in the Community Forum! And if we have a Fractal Forum, this is next in line...

Now I get it! (If I had refreshed before posting, jumpstartme2 would have steered me in the right direction. ;-) Thanks for the introduction to this. I have seen books that have these images and they are lots of fun. I just didn't know they were called stereograms. I also didn't know they were viewable on-line. Anyway, I really appreciate the suggestion and the insight. Due to the holiday schedule, it will be January before we can decide if this would be a forum that we would like to invest the time and resources to open. I'll let you know the outcome as soon as it's possible. Happy holidays and best wishes, Lillian P.S. If anyone else is interested in something like this, now is a good time to speak up and let us know.

Interesting...but personally I would not be interested...no offense...just not my thing :)

I've never been able to see anything in them. probably has something to do with lousy depth perception. ~g~

I would think there might be a lot of problems with screen resolutions. Given that one's eyes need to be "relaxed" at a fixed position, that position might not correspond to the size of the image being viewed by different people. (I don't think I'm explaining myself well, LOL) Anyway, it might be harder to get a following on the internet because of that. I like stereograms and love looking at the poster versions, but they're usually too small on my computer to enjoy them in that format. So my "vote" is "whatever others want" but I personally probably won't be able to participate, LOL.

My husband swears that we're all conspiring to make him look silly because he can never see them. (I'm assuming you're talking about the kind that are sometimes called "Magic Eye" images?) I think there was a minor side-story/joke about these in the movie "Mallrats". They're interesting to be sure. Sometimes hard on the eyes, but I've managed to see them properly on the PC... it is harder than a print though.

I think a forum/gallery for stereoscopic images in general, not just stereograms, would be a good thing. Personally I don't go much on stereograms, but blue/red glasses images and stereo left-right pairs would definitely be of interest. mick.

Maybe a gallery for "optical illusions" in general? That way stereograms, anaglyphs, etc...could all be accessible in one place. Just a thought.

Oops, I think I just dittoed pearce, LOL. I read it too fast the first time. Anyway, I'm seconding pearce's suggestion. :)

I know the Red/Blue Glasses Images are also known as Stereograms, but there is a huge differance in what I'm refering to. Here is an image I made with Sysgen, that I've been meaning to post for days! = )