After reading all the exciting information on Vue 5 Infinite ( on Order ), I am curious about Vue 5 Infinite Ecosystems and systems requirements. With Multiple Ecosystems in a scene, how much memory should a machine have. Will 1 Meg on the machine be fine or will run better on better with 2 Meg. I know its not going to be available until March 15th, but I would like to prepare my hardware for it. Also does multiple render machines nodes, help this situation.

Get an Athlon 64 and be READY for the FUTURE...

(Also 1.5-2MB Ram, SATA Drives, NVidia GeForce, etc. will make your experiences much more ...I N F I N I T E...)

Message edited on: 02/03/2005 19:46

I saw nothing mention that V5I has a 64 bit support. My real interest here is not hardware but actual how much does Vue 5 Infinite use in memory when dealing with Ecosystems. For some of information on the announcement, my guess is they figured out a method to be memory efficient even with that many polygons.

The test movie that Phoul did, called 'Ecocity' was done on a machine with 512megs of ram (you can find it at his site, and at the e-on site on the Infinite feature page). Infinite doesn't have 64 bit addressing support. That will have to wait until MS gets the thumb out and XP-64 is released.

I know that these questions have been asked before, but how can you prepare your hardware for something no one knows? So many people asking questions no one except E-On and the beta testers know and their not obviously are not going to tell us yet. Until now E-On really releases the system requirements at the last moment, up to that point we can only be guessing.

"I know that these questions have been asked before, but how can you prepare your hardware for something no one knows?" To a degree, that's true. Wife suggested I swap out my PC and get a new one for Christmas so I prepared for the new Vue I as best I could (P3.6, 4 GB RAM, 2x400 GB SATA HD in Raid 0 configuration with a 250 GB backup drive). Only "guessing game" will be if my new graphics card works with their software--will just have to cross my fingers on that one considering their track record with graphics cards.

As far as graphics software and Video cards, I have always fine that NVidia cards are ones to get. I know its true for Lightwave 3d because of better OpenGL.

Athlon 64's are both 32 and 64 bit ready- so my WinXP runs like a champ now with Vue 5, compared to my older P-III's. AMD's internal processing is much more efficient already than Intel's... And when Microsoft releases it's 64 bit OS, my machine is READY. 32 Bit chips will NOT run it. Your PC Chip and OS have a major impact on how your software runs. E-on could very well be running a test-bed of Vue Infinite on MS's 64 Bit OS because the BETA has been out already for a very LONG TIME. You can get it now, if you like- but there aren't a lot of drivers officially ready yet- but that's why there has been a long BETA- to get most of the major players on-board and getting their software and hardware ready to support it. This coming FALL PC Selling Season will see the 64 Bit OS as the new "BIG THING" to get. And E-on will likely have a 64 bit Vue Infinite release ready to show at trade shows during this Fall Sales-Trade Show season...

"And when Microsoft releases it's 64 bit OS, my machine is READY. 32 Bit chips will NOT run it. Your PC Chip and OS have a major impact on how your software runs"

My machine is not ready, I've got one of those old nasty 32 bit Athlon's, but it still runs like a champ! I'm not planning on getting a new pc either for a long time.

"This coming FALL PC Selling Season will see the 64 Bit OS as the new "BIG THING" to get. And E-on will likely have a 64 bit Vue Infinite release ready to show at trade shows during this Fall Sales-Trade Show season... "

What a glorious day this will be for me! Since it will not run on my machine, I'm not going to get this..... I will keep on running good old 32bit software like WinXp SP1, Vue 5, Poser 5 and TrueSpace 6.6..... I will not have to worry about updates and patches, don't have to waste my hard earned cash on Microsoft junk and the latest software technology anymore. No more spending $$$ on Vue 6, Poser 7 and TrueSpace 8 and who no what more!

Finally I will have money enough to buy the huge car I always wanted, take my family on a trip around the world. And all we can utter all the time is, 'Thank God for Microsoft, for pushing the 64bit operating on all of us, now we do have lot's of time and money to do other things!'. All of this doesn't excite me anymore, all of this hunting after the latest computer technology and the newest version of whatever. People are nover statisfied.... Well, i don't need the next Vue, nor the next Poser or the next TrueSpace. I'm very satisfied with Vue 5, Poser 5 and TrueSpace 6.6, I'm planning on using it for a long long time.

Message edited on: 02/04/2005 14:29

My Vue 4 Pro is running on my main 3.2Ghz P4 with Hyperthreading. Hyperthreading is really nice with Vue because Vue reconized it it has 2 cpus. I have also notice with Lightwave have the 2nd logically cpu system runs more efficiently. If you ever curious about difference with hyperthreading, turn it off and run Vue. You will notice a big slugglish difference. In my opinion Dual Core technology is a next logical extension to hyperthreading. Vue should even run better on dual cores because reduce over head of actually having physical cores instead of logical cores. As far as 64 bit OS, it really does not matter if 32 chips can't run it. What matters is 64 bit applications come out, these applications will required 64 bit. I also think it would be foolish for companies to only come out with 64 bit versions of software. 64 bit is not new, Intel has had it for years.. Again this topic was not designed to debate AMD vs Intel but instead I am looking for information on memory requirements/system requirements for running the Ecosystems. In another thread it was mention that one of pictures was done with 512Meg of ram, so I think we are ok.

Infinite doesn't have 64 bit addressing support. That will have to wait until MS gets the thumb out and XP-64 is released. Huh? MY vue 4... plain old 4... is running fine (I never even patched it up to .12!!) and so is my Poser 5... all happy as clams on my AMD 64 bit motherboard and cpu, with 1 and 1/2 gigs of ram... so why wouldn't vue 5 I be as happy on my machine... ? I think it will be fine. (but my pocket book isn't until e-on gives a price incentive to go from a loyal vue 4 user... sigh) I want the eco system....so I have to wait until I can "find" the huge asking price... Well... if not a price break... maybe a sale? A year from now? Maybe when any patches are generated too... soooo I wait...and wish, and watch, and hope...

I saw some information about Intel's New Extreme Edition cpu being release Q2 with Dual Core with Hyperthreading. Which means 4 Logical cpus. Vue is already multiprocessor aware, so I believe vue will run incredable on such a box. Still the main reason for this thread is not to discuss advantages of different hardware, but to find out what the requirments for new Ecosystem. My concern is so many polygons. Its most speculation right now, until V5I ships and we find out for ourselves. Unless e-On publishes some info about it.

Ah.. well I did go to the eon site and I read and clicked on the image of many trees I think it was...and how many polys... hmmm I don't think it said how long it took to render though...will have to go back and check...

as for win xp pro 64 bit edition its going to roll out in march from microsoft. as for vue4e(boxed version) to vu5I Lyne, contact eons sales reps they will help you.

VUe runs like a champ on an Athlon 64, no question. But there won't be usage of the memory bandwidth available with 64 bit addressing until the OS is there for an app to be run on...

This is has got me curious, I know with Lightwave there is a site that list performance on difference machines. Is there is a similar site. Instead of word of mouth speculation, I would rather see some real #'s

not atm that i know of but i was actually planing on releasing one once i have my hands on v5I since i have access to both amd and intel rigs. wont happen right away of course due to my workload + im going to enjoy working and playing with v5I aswell,didnt plan on mentioning it before it was done but you asked :)

I am not sure if Vue can control # of threads like Lightwave. If so... It would be interested to compare the test with single thread on both machines and then compare the test with multiple threads on both machine. My guess if multi-thread will have better performance on hyperthreaded machines than on ones that are not hyperthread. Also you can tell the effect of hyperthreading by turning off hyperthreading on a machine with it. I would expected with applications like Vue and Lightwave which support multi-cpus that turning off hyperthreading will lower performance.