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Subject: How about a "MYSTERY MODELLERS" Club?


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 6:15 PM · edited Mon, 09 December 2024 at 12:21 PM

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About a year ago - I was back into my UFO / CRYPTOZOOLOGY / GHOSTS AND GOBLINS - "REAL TWILIGHT ZONE" phase - after I had been away from it for a very very long time. I have actively studied almost all facets of the "Strange and Unusual" - on and off - for most of my life - having always loved many aspects of the paranormal (especially UFOs and Strange Creature Reports) since I was in diapers practically - not because I necessarily believed in any of the stuff - but because IT WAS, AND IS SOMETIMES (When it doesn't spook you or creep you out too bad) - LOADS OF FUN!!! I use to save my money when I was a kid and buy STACKS of UFO magazines from the Stop'N'Go convenience store across town.And - in school - and at the public library - I thrived on books about Bigfoot,Ghosts,UFOs,Mysteries of Time and Space,you name it.It's always been a hobby with me anyway... Recently I tried my hand at long distance investigation for the first time - and got my first case. A woman in TEXAS - driving along Interstate 83 towards Childress from Abilene with her boyfriend, related to me the story of an encounter that she and her beau had had at around - or shortly after midnight a few years ago - involving seeing a large,weird looking sloth like humanoid creature cross the road rapidly in front of her car as she caught it in her headlights. The story facinated me - and I found out about it for the first time when she posted her account on the CRYPTOZOOLOGY.COM website.She gave her email address - and I started corresponding with her and getting more and more details about the case.I started doing sketches based on her descriptions of "the thing" - and sending them back to her to be checked for accuracy. After many misses and near misses - I hit it right on the head after doing a composite image of the beast in Poser Pro and sending it to her - that's the image I posted here. She saw it - and she said that when she first opened it up in the email it shocked her, because it was a perfect FLAWLESS likeness of the thing (this was achieved only after numerous sketches). A lot of you guys like to do SCI-FI and Horror genre stuff in Poser - but have you ever tried looking up ghost, or UFO, or Wierd creature encounter reports on the net and doing "forensic re-creations" of the wierd but allegedly true? Just spittin some ideas out there...


OrcaDesignStudios ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 6:44 PM

Good to see fellow CRYPTOZOOLOGY.COM'ers around here. Do you use the same user name over there? I haven't done any re-creations as of yet, but Cisco and I have discussed it a couple times, specifically in relation to sasquatch sightings. I bought the Sixus1 bigfott, which is a GREAT figure. I may try to do some over my holiday next month.


Qualien ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 6:47 PM

I was trying to remember the last time I was in Texas and I did NOT see "a large, weird looking sloth like humanoid creature cross the road" usually between a trailer park and a convenience store. (I'm no East Coast elitist puttin down sloth-like Texicans. I live in Montana so that would qualify as throwing rocks from the window of a glass house.)

I don't know if I would be of much help modelling - all my meshes tend to look like mutant aliens, even if I am trying to make a chair. But if you need weird inverted backgrounds made in Photoshop I can do that (also I have spent time in the Roswell area).

PS still waiting patienly for opportunity to download your free worm, got any links?

Mike


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 7:00 PM · edited Tue, 12 April 2005 at 7:02 PM

Mike -send me your email and I'll send you the files.
ORCADESIGN: I'm not a poster at CRYPTO-but I frequently go there for a weirdness fix - have been for a couple of years - along with NUFORC,MUFON,and FILERS FILES / UFO ROUNDUP.

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Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 7:01 PM

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lmckenzie ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 7:14 PM

"I was trying to remember the last time I was in Texas and I did NOT see "a large, weird looking sloth like humanoid creature cross the road" usually between a trailer park and a convenience store." It was probably just Dubya out for a stroll before he stopped partying.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 7:21 PM

ROFLMAO! As to the subject at hand, Sixus 1 has done a lot of creatures of this type, and is the first one that comes to mind.



Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 7:52 PM

I would like to talk to SIXUS about that - I could direct him to TONS of inspirational material to model "BIZARRE BUT TRUE MONSTERS".


sixus1 ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:09 PM

That would be cool :) Send an email to Rebekah@sixus1.com We like monsters. --Rebekah--


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:14 PM

Ok Rebekah - I'm sending you guys some links as soon as I collect them.


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:17 PM

I know where to get bunches of stories and descriptions about new and wonderous creatures besides your typical Bigfoot or Nessie or Grey Alien or...Well-you get the picture...


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:19 PM

Chupacabra and Jersey Devil would be cool. 8-)



Little_Dragon ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:22 PM

.... but have you ever tried looking up ghost, or UFO, or Wierd creature encounter reports on the net and doing "forensic re-creations"?

No, but I've probably been unintentionally responsible for several of those sightings .... Image hosted by Photobucket.com



OrcaDesignStudios ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:25 PM

Chupacabra and Jersey Devil would be cool. Sixus1 has already released Chupacabra and Jersey Devil figures. I have the JD and it's a great product.


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:27 PM

Don't forget the Loveland Frog,Spring Heeled Jack,The Thunder Bird,The Texas Pteranadon,The Mad Gasser,The Talking Ferret,The Dover Demon,The Tazel Wurm,The Orang Pendek, The Blue Tiger, The Bunyip,The Reptilians,The Nordics,The Hairy Dwarves,The Green People,The MIB,The Albinos,The Flying Serpent,The Moth Man,YADDA YADDA YADDA - The List NEVER ends...LOL:)


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:30 PM

The Talking Ferret .... Do you mean Gef? I thought he was a mongoose.



OrcaDesignStudios ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:30 PM

The Mad Gasser was just a crazy guy, though, not really a "monster."


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:31 PM

LOL-Little Dragon,your gonna have to explain your statement,LOL.


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:32 PM

GEF! YEAH, LOL


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:33 PM

Ferret,Mongoose- you say TOM-AY-TOE,and I say TOM-O-TOE,LOL.


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:36 PM

I've heard some bizarre descriptions of the GASSER though that might make one think of him as a bit odd in that in some accounts he was able to appear and disappear at will - and even somehow get into locked biuldings without disturbing the locks or opening the doors.So he might qaulify as a "monster" I guess.


sixus1 ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:37 PM

Attached Link: Link to our 'Modern Myths'

We were going to do a second line for the 'Modern Myths' this summer, so let me know what it is that you really want to see :) --Rebekah-- P.S. we did a Chupracabra, but I think that it looks cute rather than menacing. :)


Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:40 PM

REBEKAH - I can get you to stories of humanoid encounters that will provide you with hundreds of different creature types!!!


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:44 PM

Well, allegedly a mongoose. We only have Gef's word on the matter, after all. But honestly, if you're not going to believe the disembodied voice coming from within the walls of your house, then who? >> Little Dragon,your gonna have to explain your statement,LOL. People have seen me, on occasion.



Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 8:46 PM

Well Little Dragon - were not MUTANT'O'PHOBES here,LOL. Not predjiced against MUTANTS - so you may feel completely excepted - as I too am a mutant - specifically the shut in bridge troll variety, LOL.


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 9:39 PM

I'd normally take offence at being referred to as a mutant, but I'll let it pass for now, since I don't know which bridge to set aflame.



Mugsey ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 10:00 PM

LOL-It's the one that has a sign posted that says "WARNING - FAT BALD TOOTHLESS LOSER SLEEPING UNDER BRIDGE - MUST ANSWER THREE QUESTIONS OR CALL A SOCIAL WORKER BECAUSE CROSSING!" LOL.


randym77 ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 10:40 PM

I really like the idea of cryptozoological "forensic modelling." I, too, have been fascinated by this sort of thing since childhood. I don't know if I actually believe any of it; in fact, I'd say I probably don't, with a few exceptions. Call me a skeptic with an open mind. :-) But the idea of doing this type of model as a forensic recreation, rather than just a work of art, seems like a really promising idea. I bet if you put up a Web site with renders and animations re-creating people's encounters, it would be a big hit.


Khai ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 10:43 PM

"Call me a skeptic with an open mind." we call that a Fortean. Welcome Brother....


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sixus1 ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 11:28 PM

I LOVE BatBoy !! Although, I would have to say that I think that WWW needs some new innovative writers like they used to have. :) --Rebekah-- BTW--if you had a site up doing recreations of sigthings, I would definately be a regular visitor. P.S. -- had a thought..they should give batboy a penis, call him BatGuy and have him knocking up trailer trash out in Tenn.


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 11:42 PM

Although, I would have to say that I think that WWW needs some new innovative writers like they used to have.


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lmckenzie ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 11:45 PM

As Norma Faye sez 'I never seen nuthin that big, least not on a white man.'

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


Mugsey ( ) posted Wed, 13 April 2005 at 7:27 AM

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#1.It would take more than one dedicated artist to do a website with recreations. Because - if we're talking about just one guy doing this - it would take forever to get a decent amount of content. We need about five or six artists working each on a specific case re-creation per artist, with at the most a qaurter annual deadline to get their stuff in for posting (4 months). That means you would have five or six new illustrated stories/cases every four (4) months. #2.We need an editor to clean up the written case reports,do site layout,and generally be in charge of the main website arrangement,structure,and to act as the webmaster or a co-webmaster. #3. we need to do this either through a free webspace service (unlikely) - or through a pay donation,not for profit arrangement,or have the site sponsored by someone. You can find pretty good inexpensive web site packages out there - so if your talking at the most twenty five bucks a month,that should be do-able. #4 - I myself - or someone else - could be in charge of promoting the thing through several big UFO and FORTEAN websites like maybe MUFON,or NUFORC,or CRYPTO, or FORTEAN TIMES, or whomever would agree to a link exchange or some bardered promotional trade offs. #5,If it gets popular - people like George Noory,Jeff Rense,and all the other hooky kooky Art Bell type radio shows are gonna want to interview somebody attatched to the project.We need a good P.R. Spokesman willing to do that. #6,We need a case director that can assign interesting and fun cases to our writer/artists to re-create.Somebody who can pick the cases out for their dramatic and interesting qaulities. #7.FIRST THINGS FIRST - We need the guys at renderosity to give us our own forum entitled "3D FORTEAN MYSTERIES CLUB", or something like that.


Mugsey ( ) posted Wed, 13 April 2005 at 7:34 AM

I'm talking about not just re-creating creatures - but recreating entire events/cases in either a scene or series of scenes - or an animation.


randym77 ( ) posted Wed, 13 April 2005 at 9:16 AM

#1. Definitely. This is not a one-man job.

#2. Possibly separate the webmastering and editing roles. Good webmasters are not necessarily good writers.

#3. Webhosting is cheap. If bandwidth gets to be a problem, images, sound files, and animations could be stored at ourmedia.org, which offers free hosting with unlimited bandwidth, and allows remote linking. (It's a nonprofit organization, created to encourage "public publishing," grassroots media, that sort of thing.)

#4. Sounds good.

#5. Worry about that bridge when you get to it.

#6. This might be the most critical job. Someone who can deal with the public, with the artists, and has the artistic vision to recognize a story that would make a good visual.

#7. Dunno if that will ever happen. There are other possibilities. A mailing list? A message board? Yahoogroup?

Message 35 - some encounters might be worth a whole animation, others might not. Perhaps a mix of single images, series of images, and full animations? That would reduce the work load when it comes to providing content.


Mugsey ( ) posted Wed, 13 April 2005 at 10:06 AM

I can do much of what's on that list except for providing the website.But I can't do most (I can do a lot though) because of personal time and other limitations and constraints.We need to start some serious pre-planning and pre-pre-production bull pen sessions on this and see what we can get done and who we can get aboard on this.


Mugsey ( ) posted Wed, 13 April 2005 at 10:14 AM

I'm going to look into starting a YAHOO group as a first step.


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