First, I own Poser 4. It was registered with CL. I bought it back in 2000.

Second, I was not given a reason for why my thread was locked. As far as I know, I have done nothing wrong. I spend WAY too much money in the Renderosity marketplace to be treated so rudely. I should get an apology from the person who jumped to the wrong conclusion and locked my thread.

Third, I have upgraded to OSX, but my current machine runs too slow under OSX, so I switched back to OS9. I prefer a speed over programs that gobble up RAM.

Fourth, there are lots of P4 users, and I bet I'm not the only one who would be happy to pay full upgrade price to go from P4 to PP at the Curious Labs website. But the sad truth is, there is no way to do that, and it's been that way for years.

CL continues to sell P4 (as Poser Artist) but does not sell PP.

PP was the last version of Poser that supported both MAC and PC. Now you have to commit to either one or the other, and if you want crossplatform, you have to buy 2 copies.

I understand CL makes cool newer versions of Poser, but they also still sell P4 (Poser Artist). Why can't they just sell PP instead of P4?

Yes, I know my beloved Mac is getting old, but so far it's served me well. I am saving up my money to get serious with a G5 machine, P6, and Vue5 but until then I don't want to be left out in the cold when Wardrobe Wizard comes out. I consider it a "Must Have," and it needs PP/P5/P6 python support to work. No Poser user will be able to live without Wardrobe Wizard if it's as good as it sounds.

Why can't I just get an upgrade? sobs
Why does it have to be so frustrating?
Why do people have to be so rude?

If anyone has an idea where I can find PP to buy, please let me know.
I'm all ears.

bB

Message edited on: 05/07/2005 14:01

I wouldn't have locked it, either, but the correct thing for you to do was to IM the mod, rather than post this again, because it will just make things worse. Anyway, double-check to see whether Poser Artist has python support, and whether it will work with OS 9. As Wolf says, OS 9 is no longer supported, as much as we might regret it. We have to move on.

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I read over in a DAZ thread that someone bought PPP on Ebay for $30.

Thanks wyrwulf! Consider it snagged!!! Weee! 8D I've never heard of Frys before. Thanks for the tip. mateo_sancarlos, P4 (Poser Artist) does not support python. I would have replied to the first thread, but it was locked before I could explain myself. I should have been IMed by the ADMINs, not vise versa. I used to run a forum, and I would never have done that to a poster with an explaination for the lock either privately or publically. I feel my name has been smeared, and thus I started a 2nd thread to explain and defend myself, and solve the original problem. I got good feedback. I have not done anything wrong. bB <-- who may be crazy to spend $89 on an old program. lol! ;p

Porthos , I know. I'm envious. Good for him though. It found a good home. I've had Amazon looking for PP for me for over a year now. I've been looking in eBay from sometime too. But luck is just not on my side, I guess. bB

Wardrobe Wizard, at last count, did not claim to be usable in PP. Only p5 and p6.

Quote: Don't know if that's what they call "Poser Artist" now. Maybe you can find a used version at ebay or one of those, not sure. If somebody is interested contact him by IM. To prevent any "spam" of some sort I'll lock this thread. ------------------------------------------------ Seems to me a reason WAS given. Perhaps one your not happy with though. As for finding a copy, Ebay's a good bet.

Tyger_purr, Right now it's P5 and P6, but the final version will include PP. I think it's only P5 and P6 right now because the beta clothes test for for Don, Judy, Dork, and Posette, but I could be wrong. MaryK, Point taken. Honestly, I don't remember the 2nd paragraph. My knee jerked. I admit I should have explained myself better at the start, and I also think it was wrong to lock the thread. I doubt there would have been spam posts, and there are issues about Mac, PC, PP, P4, P5, P6, and python worth discussing. Anyhoo, I've calmed down. bB

Does Wardrobe Wizard use the Cloth Room? If so, you can't use it with PP.

If it's just Python that's required, it should work in PP if it works in P5. The big problem with Python is the Mac. Some Python scripts won't run on the Mac version of Poser. Even P6, I think.

If you do get PP, do remember to download SR3 from CL or your python scripts won't run!

Ack! Some don't work? All I want is for Pose Genie, Wardrobe Wizard, and Delete-all-lights to work. ;) I think those are the MVPs of Python, right? ;) bB

IIRC, Wardrobe Wizard uses the cloth room, so you'd have to have at least Poser 5 to utilize it at all. I can't see an upgrade package at Curious Labs that isn't German, so I honestly don't know what to say. You could upgrade to P6 for $149 US, if that is an option for you. There are, obviously, mixed reviews about it, as it's a new app, but you'd have to make sure your computer would run it. Other than that, you'd have to look for someone who would be willing to not only sell you Poser 5, but also transfer their license to you. Good luck, and I hope you find what you're looking for! MorriganShadow Poser Mod.

Okay, I downloaded Wardrobe Wizard and took a look at it. I don't think it uses the Cloth Room. Phil says it works with PP and Macs (unlike Clothing Creator).

Oh no, I don't want to use the cloth room-- that module terrifies me! I don't remember anything about cloth room requirements but haven't even opened up Wardobe Wizard yet, so what do I know. Well, BastBlack, you may not be the only one out in the cold-- I've been so looking forward to this program too. Sigh, Emily

randym77 said "Okay, I downloaded Wardrobe Wizard and took a look at it. I don't think it uses the Cloth Room." Geeze, I hate rumors. [why don't I take a look for myself???? Too sick and half crazy-- they go together-- right now, to risk the disappointment. It's hell to get old.] Emily

I've done a couple conversions in Wardrobe Wizard, and if it uses the cloth room, I'd be surprised. I think it uses the magnet system and I know it uses Python, so I can't imagine why PP couldn't run it.

I have yet to actually try it, as I'm finishing a project, however, the download page for Wardrobe Wizard states that it is for P5 and P6. As for backwards compatiblitiy, you would have to speak with PhilC himself. MS

WW uses Python and magnets, no cloth room. Here's Dork wearing Posette's trenchcoat.

I am not a P4 user, but I am interested in the Python stuff listed here. Could someone provide a link or vendor where this stuff is for sale?

Sign up for PhilC's mailing list. So far as I know, it's the only way to get it right now. It's in beta.

BTW, I checked the download page, and it does not say it's for P5 and P6 only. On the contrary, it says it's PP compatible.

it only requires python

It does work in PP. Only reason you'd need P5 or P6 is, that you won't have Don or Judy otherwise. And those are some of the conversions that are supported by the public beta.