I'm on a fried-egg size kick right now, lol! Sometimes it's normal size, sometimes, it's way pointy, sometimes it's BIG. Right now it's little. Don't ask me why it varies - It may be related to barometer reading, the way the planets line up or maybe a butterfly fluttered by in the Amazonian jungle. (?) [There is almost no variation on the female form that is not fascinating/interesting as far as I'm concerned. From tiny and skinny to big and buxom, tall and willowy to short and square, round to flat to whatever. I like wobbly bottoms and tight butts, big boobs and none at all. Go figure!] And this is not related to the size of the rest of the body, mind - so using 'young' or skinny' or other FBM is not an option. I want to smoothen out the chest without changing the rest of the body shape. Some of the meshes have morphs that do a fairly good job of making small boobs, (Vicki3 is reasonable) but many don't. Trouble is, many of the meshes are really difficult to flatten out - the shape of the breast is so built-in that you can't get rid of it. At least I can't. Sure, PT can do it - but I talking grown-up here, not kids. Most difficult of all must surely be the Girl. My question is: Does anyone know of really good flattening MTs out there for: Aiko3 Vicki3 Vicki2 Jessi Judy SP Maya Doll Girl etc This includes commercial packages of any kind, anywhere. :] Fish (no, I don't need mine flattened, mine are pecs, not tits, lol)

I'm not sure with the other figures, as, I haven't played much with them in this way...but, using a *small* amount of the Youth morph on Aiko3 actually helps make the smaller breast size easier to achieve, leaving the rest of the body still looking adult. Keep in mind that the hip/buttocks still have morphs to make them wider/larger as well, so the Youth morph won't do much if you use those to bring the hips/buttocks back to where you wanted them. I've attached kind of an example (since I'm still working on the character), I've got the Young morph at .47 and the Breast 1 at .69. I didn't change the hips on this one, as, well, it puts her out of proportion into the comic realms, lol. However, she is now built just like my mother. (save the face) Oh, and I'm using the realistic morph at around .80 (closed the program before typing this)

"Trouble is, many of the meshes are really difficult to flatten out - the shape of the breast is so built-in that you can't get rid of it."

I agree. It was some pretty hard work to perfectly flatten NEA's chest:

I made both the flat chest as well as the A-cups as injection morphs, so they can be applied (and removed) with one click to NEAena.

If someone can use them just send me a pm.

stahlratte

I just don't understand why all the models don't have this kind of morph. Not all us women are 30DD sized. Fishnose, you attitude is the exact attitude most women look for in a life partner. It's refreshing to hear from someone not obssessed with humongous boobs. Unfortunately, I use just average breast sizes in my renders so I can't help you much with this issue.

I've found SP the easiest to flatten with her standard morphs. She doesn't do mega-mammaries as well as V3, but she does "flatter than Kansas" better than Laura.

(BTW, that's one thing that really annoys me. Why no "breasts gone" morph for Laura? She's supposed to be a child, but it's easier to make SP flat than Laura.)

I've noticed that A3, SP3, and many other unimesh characters tend to get a pair of 'rings' on the chest where the bottom of the breasts once rested, when you start bringing the breast sizes down to B-cup or smaller... if there was only a morph to correct that, Then I'd say the unimesh figures would be the easiest to adapt. IIRc, Thorne and Zrincx are working on a Laura morph that 'grows' Laura into an adult figure with a very well-built set of smaller breasts (at least according to the preview screenshots.) The worst mesh to try and shrink the breasts on was the Aiko 1 and Stephanie figures... tended to make 'em look all strange (Though Migal's free Stephanie Max package did a LOT to alleviate that problem.) I feel your pain, fish... I come from the "more than a handful is a waste" crowd, myself. /P

I have another question. Why is it that beeasts that are dialed the same size and look the same size from the front look as thought the nearer is smaller and the further is bigger when the body is turned away "three quarter" view oblique? I have notice this since P3. BTW I dial breasts a little off from each other in practice for realism. I don't get the breast thing at all... simply a secondary sex trait thing? Some look nice and some don't shape and size regardless... but this "big" obsession? The gay girls I hung with went nuts over a woman's voice, that seemed a big deal, I certainly have taste in that. When I was in Egypt women tourist from Germany etc. kept asking me (I guess I looked like a "returning home" torist though actualy I am a born US citizen) why local women in full veil would whip out a breast in a crowded taxi van or train car in compltete naturalness... I asked my dad about it once and he said breast are for babies "down there" is for men. I would wish "down there" was for women but alas. I am always after small breast morphs for adult woman character diversity/realism. This was my problem with Judy.

Thank goodness for bottle fed babies! All three of my boys were bottle fed. For some reason, I just never got comfortable with the idea of the other kind of feeding. note: Due to the fact that I take synthetic insulin to stay alive, my milk would not have been good for my boys It seems that most serious artists don't really care about breast size. They size the breast according to the art/image they wish to create. Someone who is really good at making morphs could probably make a fortune if they could do a morph from flat to 30DD. Maybe that is an idea for someone...

Ingenue Vickie, Breast Size AA, set to 150%. GV actually has the identical morph.

She (and GV) starts out with smaller breasts than V3, and I include as many morphs to make 'em smaller as going the other way (I include AA, A, C, D, size B is default). It is actually much easier to make the bigger morphs!

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Not to guilt you krista but I feel I should say, my wife has juvinal diabetes (and is on sythroid as well as geneticly engineered insulin) and there was never a problem with breast feeding or the kids' growth/development... but when we were in hospital each time ony one out of ten mothers were breast feeding even brand new infants. I don't get this at all. Whipping out a breast is certainly easier then doing up a bottle. And cheaper. But each to their own. I have switched to big breasts over this whole porn scare. My mother advised me to pull a bunch of paintings of twenty-five to thirty-five year old models because although they were clearly grown women in the paintings the thumbnails might be misconstrued on account of the breast size. I have been putting big breasts even on women who have only slightly small breast. Strange. For some reason I like to paint flat chested wide hipped women even though they are not my "thing" personaly... you can do fun stuff with paint on the chest when the breasts are small and the wide hips give nice curves. For me it is about paint surface and geometry. here is a painting of a model in her thirties.

heres a chance to get back at all the mods for those faeries :x

morrigan, your pic above doesnt look 18, and its a girl and topless :x
this coming from a mod, when mods delete all everything else!

gasps

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I don't think there's any thing to worry about...look at the size of those hands!!!

RDNA has a set of breast morphs that has some VERY nice small breast morphs as well as gigantor. It's useful, especially when you don't fancy fiddling around with side-slope (like my breasts do).

I've been able to get very small with v3's just body morphs

front view

side view. the rest of the body stay's adult just the breast get tiny

LadyTieryn, that is just beautiful. Reminds me of an old Netherlandish painting! What is your lighting? the breasts are small but show weight without there being distortion. All required maybe is the duct and some bumpyness on the nipples. It is the between breast area that is also particularly nice. The texture has a great subtle blue veining underneath, is that my imagination? Has anyone made a nipples morph for the Victoria 3 Reduced Resolution figure? I intend to try with magnets but I'm sure someone else coul/has done this in a proper modeling program. LadyTieryn, I realy like that lighting.

Thank you. It's the default poser lighting and the texture is my Airyn texture. It can be found in freestuff here. It's painted but i did add a few veins here and there to mimic mine. Here's a few more pics I did of her.

Morrigan: Oh what a sweet girl! I'm gonna try those settings. Stahl: I'd love those INJ for Nea. That is seriously flat :o) Very nice. Peng: Those rings, omg yes, I've struggled with that for years now... Momodot: I LURV that painting. Delicious! Momodot 2: Yes, that 'Poser breasts look odd from the side' thing has plagued me too. I've been making correction morphs for that for years. And the reason it is that way is that in Poser, breast morphs increase breast size mostly forward and not to the side, and not much downward either. The breasts invariably are too narrow on the outsides, they to be 'filled out' toward the arms to look reasonable. In real boobs size tends to manifest itself in width and 'length' (downward) and not straight ahead like Poser does it. Poser does silicon 'missile' tits, which may be fine sometimes, but when it's the only option it gets worn out REAL quick lol. Ladsytieryn: Yes, those breasts look good. But they're starting to distort - a sunken ring at the areola edge. Another one of those classical problems.. Rowan: That RDNA morph set you mentioned: is it for Jessi? :] Fish

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Have you seen Posermatic's new "Natural Gravity Morphs" for V3? They do a good job of shaping the breasts more naturally. Though it's more for large breasts than small ones.

Yep, I have them ;o) Must try them on other meshes too. :] Fish

"Poser does silicon 'missile' tits..."

It's not a bug, it's a feature... ;-)

stahlratte

Rowan: That RDNA morph set you mentioned: is it for Jessi? I don't think so. I've only seen it for V3.

• Exactly like that! ROFL Love the natural smile too! :] Fish

LadyTieryn, default lights?! That is one great texture. Fish, I just keep magnets on the breast all the time for gravity, Z-tran, and size adjustments. I wish I new how to make body handles (I have some tutorial s that might help but not the time to bust my head with them). A hack I would love is something that made working with magnets easier, true cube or pyramid zones to use with zero fall-off. Some way to keep the prop menue from getting over cluttered, a way to soft select groups. I had trouble with deformations not sticking using the terrific morph-to-group script in PoserPro up til now, I need to try it with P6. Their is some Universal Morph Set in MP but at $45 it is too expensive for me. But I think the realy issue for me is the zone shape.

"Rowan: That RDNA morph set you mentioned: is it for Jessi? I don't think so. I've only seen it for V3." They made a version of it (NBS) for Aiko 3 as well... haven't tried it yet, mostly because I shuttle between Poser and D|S a lot nowadays. /P

I have a magnet set for Jessi that does this, if you're interested.

Obviously, it's still a work-in-progress ....

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Wow, you guys are really good! My try at a small breat morph didn't turn out so good. :( Regards- Lemurtek

OTOH, she'd be great at a party. Just have her lay down and you have a nice place to put the pretzels and peanuts.

This is fantastic ... all the people seem usually mad for obtain the biggest breast for V3 ... and youre in this thread talking about reduce them ... :D The Reverse Wyrmmaster Thread roflmao

Little Dragon, I have been trying to do magnet zone "graphs" that can make rounded forms truly flat but have not been successful. The real test would be to morph a sphere into a hemisphere by flattening one side with a magnet. I have tried this by working with the zone shape and fall off but not gotten close.

I still want to find where the magnet zone is stored as I want to try other primatives for its shape.

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Of course, there is the opposite side of the coin too, demonstrated by SMV.

"Help, I've fallen, and I can't get up!"

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poor girl :O

I still want to find where the magnet zone is stored as I want to try other primatives for its shape.

I don't think it'd really matter. It's just a visual guide for the falloff zone. Changing the primitive shouldn't affect the zone itself.

Prove me wrong, though. It's ball.obj (or ball.obz, depending upon your version of Poser) in :runtime:geometries:props.

LD, sending you a PM... Jim: She looks like she stepped (fell) right out of a Bill Ward cartoon! Great. :] Fish