ok ive figured out how to split all the groups up that part was easy but for some reason when i try to save it its not saving is it possible ive found yet another ppp bug it acts like it saves but when i go to load it in modeler ppp didnt save it ?

Trav I will give you some screen shots. Give me a few minutes. Ron

Trav It looks like you solved the export problem but if you have not follow these steps. It is not a PPP problem. Do the following: 1) Import wave front object. Fig1 find your folder with the Vicky geoms in it and import it. 2) When you import make sure that you have only checked "make polygon normals consistent" Fig2 3) click on any body part then click the grouping tool. In the popup window click the spawn props button only once. Fig3 4) Then delete the original imported object. Fig4 5) Then export as LightWave fig5 6) when you get the window to export body parts make sure universe and ground are unchecked and all other body parts are checked Fig6 Hope this helps. Ron

thank you very much ron your awesome at trouble shooting and if theres anything you want or need let me know i think the prob i hac was there were two boxs checked on the import thanks for taking time to help ill try and get back to you i had centered and size checked that must have been it

Trav That was your problem. Ron