How about "open source with a license whose TERMS are COPYRIGHTED"??? Read the license. Someone doesn't want others to copy their LICENSE TERMS?! Ultimate bizarreness. While this has no influence on what permissions you have to use the MATERIALS you are downloading, it still makes me shudder.

Even the GPL is copyrighted (as is all OSS).
Copyright is what makes OSS licenses work.

Ah, I'm talking about whether the LICENSE ITSELF is copyrighted, NOT whether the STUFF BEING PROVIDED is copyrighted. Of course the STUFF is copyrighted.

In other words, GPL'd stuff is copyrighted, but I didn't think the GPL license itself was a copyrighted work. Many licenses are not -- that is, you are free to write your own license, borrowing terms from existing licenses.

Note that this license says "the wording and conditions of this license are Copyrighted ...". I've never seen that clause before. But then I don't usually bother to read licenses; I know what publishers do and don't want me to do.

=> I don't want to hijack this thread with a discussion of copyright. I came back here to delete my post before someone responded to it, but since it is too late for that, let me just request we not discuss this topic further on this thread. <= If anyone does wish to discuss copyright or licensing further, please do so by starting a new thread, then posting here a link to that thread. That way, only interested people need follow that link.

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thread drift lives, and I'm not interested in starting a new thread. The figure appears to be rigged to the P5/6 spec, and is actually rather nice -- quite a refreshing change. Small tweaks here and there. As for licenses: all licenses, themselves, are covered by copyright, stated or not. IPOF, their statement is redundant. Redundancy in this case may be a good thing. Should be intersting to see what sort of support the figure recieves, and whether or not there will be a male rig to complement...

Two letters: WW

Ok - I have been a member since I received the newsletter from from Zygote during the week but when I click on the "download" link I get sent to a page with all the non free models and can't sem to find the open source models anywhere - what am I doing wrong?

"...can't sem to find the open source models anywhere..." Try the "Open Source" link on the left hand menu maybe? Download took me to: http://www.3dscience.com/Free_Open_Source_3D_Horse_Model_Download.asp which has the actual DL link. I signed up and started downloading, haven't checked to see if the email even arrived. Windows 2000/Slim Browser (IE 6 core).

I finally got it by right clicking on the link - sti;; not sure where that link hid for the last 5 days - but downloading now... Be interesting to see the difference between this one and the model DAD produced. Also DAD has made a the male version poserfied about 3 months ago....

uh... who/what/where is "DAD" please?

Hi Nance.

DAD is DAD David (Tahir) Deschamphelaere

I can't find the link to his site at the moment, but I think you will find the link to "Z Man" if you go to Sixus Media.

David actually was the first to poserize both the Zygote man and woman not long after they were released.

I've been telling people on these forums about them for ages - but sometimes things just don't sink in.....

Kept seeing posts like "When will someone poserize the Zygote Open Source models?" Now I'm back to Poser 6ifying my Xmas tree and then see if anyone is interested in downloading it :) edited to correct typos

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I must be the only person who downloaded them :)

No, you were not ;) but dad has upates but the page he named was not available.

thanks for the add'l info tastiger

I for one would sure like to see DaD's poserised versions. Looked over at Sixus but did not find the right links. Will look again later.

Oh well ... Here I am ... go away for a few years and people finally start talking about you. LOL Anyone interested can find the original Z-Woman, Z-Man, and Z-Girl that I did off the Zygote models at my webstore: www.mythosrnd.com Go to the store section and scroll down to the freebies link. They are there with a few other items. One of these days I will get around to doing a version2.0 but it's not on the plate yet. If there is enough interest I might break down and do them. I have some big plans for the V2 versions, but there has been so little interest in OS3D that I kind of got side tracked into other areas.

cool !!

I am thrilled to see open source human models available. Re the Open Source 3D models, I tried to download them, from open3dproject.org, but even after logging in, every one simply said "Access Denied". For the Zygote ones, I am happy to hear about DAD's rigs -- downloading them now -- thanks DAD. For the Project Humans, I found the ContentParadise links for downloading one of them(apologies if I'm stating the obvious): Project Human: Female - LoRes http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/product.php?productid=11902 Are the other two (Project Human: Male, and the NOT loRes Female) available anywhere?

Huh. Content Paradise's Advanced Search is rather sad, as it apparently lacks a way to say "only show me Project AND Human", and then didn't seem to list them, even after looking through pages of unrelated figures. But I finally noticed them under "Related Links" from one item: Project Human: Female http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/product.php?productid=11693 Project Human: Male http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/product.php?productid=11694