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Subject: ATTN MODS: why am I not allowed product credits???????????


logansfury ( ) posted Sat, 15 July 2006 at 6:58 AM · edited Thu, 09 January 2025 at 11:57 PM

From the email just sent to Cocco:

"You have
All of this products modelling was performed by: Cocco
MAT file for pants transparencies by: ~.¤Logan§Fury¤.~

These statements Must contain the exact wording.

You should have

All of this product's content was created by ~.¤Logan§Fury¤.~"

Cocco's  new retail product has been PULLED from the marketplace and the .cr2 and .pp2 having version number 5 and the above readme "issue" being the stated reasons.

Ive edited the .cr2 and .pp2 from "version 5" to "version 4.01" so there will be no more "version has an older number than expected but poser will attempt to read it anyway"

I DID NOT create all the content in the zip. Cocco did all the modelling and asked me to do a MAT file for the product, the MAT file is included in the zip, why am I not allowed credit for that MAT file? When Mordikar credited me for files contributed to his most recent freebies, there was never a problem, what is the difference in this case? I dont see why I can be credited for my contribution to a freebie project but not to a retail project.

Can anyone explain this or move this to the right forum or forward this to the right member of the retail product approval team cause I dont understand why Cocco is being denied the opportunity to make sales over this.

Logan


wheatpenny ( ) posted Sat, 15 July 2006 at 7:15 AM
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Send an IM to Debbie M or to laetia as they are in charge of approving marketplace products.




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laetia ( ) posted Fri, 21 July 2006 at 9:12 PM

I think this should have been posted in the Merchant forum...  anyhow, just to clarify, I no longer test products for the MarketPlace, so I wouldn't have been able to help.

Which ever tester sent the message about the failure for guidelines would have been the best person to try to resolve the matter with.

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logansfury ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 8:59 AM

The tester never responded to Cocco's email inquiry :(

Ive gotta bail for work but im going to post in the merc forum when I get home.


stephaniebt ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 9:36 AM

I'm trying to understand all this outrage over not getting credit for making a single MAT pose file for a friend's product, but I'm just not getting it.


Ardiva ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 10:14 AM

"All of this products modelling was performed by: Cocco
MAT file for pants transparencies by: ~.¤Logan§Fury¤.~

These statements Must contain the exact wording.

You should have:

All of this product's content was created by ~.¤Logan§Fury¤.~"

What I don't understand is that she DID credit Logans for the mat. Now he wants her to put in that ALL the product was created by Logans??

Am I misunderstanding here??



logansfury ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 2:30 PM

The situation is that Cocco did all the modelling, I did a single MAT pose edit.

Why the betatester would want to give me full credit for 99% of the content that I did not create I have absolutely no idea.

Why the betatester does not want to allow mention of my contribution to the product I have absolutely no idea.

All Cocco and I wanted is to have the readme credit me for the MAT pose I did. I told Cocco to go ahead and remove my credit so as not to lose sales, Cocco says he is not removing my credit from the readme.

We just dont understand why this is such a damn issue. I made that MAT pose, were not pulling a fast one on the community. How many manatees and baby seals can it possibly harm to have ONE SINGLE LINE of legitimate product credit in the readme. I just cannot believe this isnt resolved yet. Cocco cant get any return contact from the beta tester that pulled this product.


logansfury ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 2:36 PM

I just looked at the forums page and there is nothing called Merchants Forum

laetia were you referring to the Product Showcase or another forum when you suggest this be posted elsewhere?


stephaniebt ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 2:45 PM

Only merchants can access the merchant forum.


Ardiva ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 2:54 PM · edited Sat, 22 July 2006 at 2:56 PM

Ok, now I understand the email was from a *store tester here at RO.

They indeed for sure have very strict rules here on the wording of readme's. :(

I hope you get this resolved to everyones satisfaction, Logan.

Regards,
Ardiva*



logansfury ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 3:07 PM

Thanks Ardiva.

Like I said, its a pretty minimal contribution, but its a start, and its pretty disenheartening to see that the product is not being accepted over the readme.

What makes it so frustrating is that rosity is full of project teams releasing items together and its never seemed to be an issue to get multiple contributor credit in a readme.

Combine that with the beta tester actions: Cocco submitted this item, the name of the item is "Cocco's Pants for Michael", yet the beta tester has pulled the product because the readme doesnt credit ME for everything??? I dont know if this tester doesnt realise that Cocco and I are two seperate individual people or what, but now the beta tester wont even respond to Cocco's emails so it doesnt seem im going to find out. It would appear this tester is at the very least pretty confused, is definately unresponsive, yet has the power to pull an item from the pending que?

This just doesnt make sense.


Ardiva ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 3:29 PM

Well, if push comes to shove, have Cocco submit the product over at Poser Pros. I have a store there and they are not heavy handed like here.



logansfury ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 4:21 PM

I'll pass that suggestion along to Cocco :) but I know he wants to add the pants to his existing store here. Ill see if he wants to compose an email to the Merchant's forum and get the readme reviewed. There must be some kind of acceptable readme template we can get from rosity that allows multiple credits.


Ardiva ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 4:24 PM · edited Sat, 22 July 2006 at 4:26 PM

Are Cocco's products "exclusive" here? If not then he can also submit them to other stores as well. :)



logansfury ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 5:15 PM

Good question, I unno!

But I know this is "home" to both of us as far as Poser is concerned, so im sure you can relate to his desire to get the item accepted here :)


Ardiva ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 5:45 PM

I understand fully, Logan. ;) 

Best wishes to you two on your new product.



Acadia ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 7:24 PM · edited Sat, 22 July 2006 at 7:25 PM

Quote - "All of this products modelling was performed by: Cocco
MAT file for pants transparencies by: ~.¤Logan§Fury¤.~

These statements Must contain the exact wording.

You should have:

All of this product's content was created by ~.¤Logan§Fury¤.~"

Why not change the wording to something like this:

Modelling and textures by Cocco

Special thanks to ~.¤Logan§Fury¤.~ for creating the MAT file for the pants transparencies.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Dizzi ( ) posted Sat, 22 July 2006 at 9:35 PM

It's being dealt with in the Vendor's forum already... and please keep in mind that there's no guaranty that emails will reach the addressee.



logansfury ( ) posted Sun, 23 July 2006 at 10:34 AM

Acadia, Id have no problem with any different wording in the readme that was accurate and made sense, but here is an excerpt from an email Cocco just sent me:

"i had to
write:"All of this product's content was created by: Cocco - MAT file for
pants transparencies by: ~.¤Logan§Fury¤.~".
I know this is absurd because if you made the mat file I didn't create all
the content,but that's the way they want it..."

So there ya have it, evidently the only way to credit anyone that makes a minimal contribution to a product is to appear to be incapable of composing a literate readme. sheeesh!!!

Dizzi, good point, email gremlins are definately out there. Product is being resubmitted soon, sorry for any confusion I caused by not having access to the Vendor forums.


Ardiva ( ) posted Sun, 23 July 2006 at 12:41 PM

"I know this is absurd because if you made the mat file I didn't create all
the content,but that's the way they want it..."

Logan, Renderosity has made their living out of being absurd and they will continue to do so while everyone laughs. ;)



nomuse ( ) posted Sun, 23 July 2006 at 11:30 PM · edited Sun, 23 July 2006 at 11:34 PM

Yes, but then they give the rest of us trouble because we didn't leap instinctively towards their fractured grammar and Wonderland logic. (finally found the thread in Vendor's Forum...or is it the Merchant's Forum? Rendo can't seem to decide...)


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