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Subject: Problem with Tink Dress


Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 7:06 AM · edited Mon, 23 December 2024 at 2:28 PM

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I have the Tink Dress from Faerie Dreams but am having trouble rendering it with an applied texture.

When I add the dress to Aiko, it's default green. When you look in the material room, there is a node interface called "Grass/Dirt".

I am trying to use one of the gorgeous textures from the Faerie Solstice (Flower Girls - Tiger Lilly Pattern).  The texture applies and shows the new Tiger Lilly pattern in the Pose window.  But when it renders it renders the default green.

I looked in the Material Room and after applying the new texture, there are the following windows in the material room window:

Colour Texture (connected to the Poser Surface window)
Poser Surface
Grass/Dirt   (not connected to anything)

The Grass/Dirt is the same type of window as the Poser Surface window (IE: has all of the same dials).

It seems that when it renders it is picking up on the Grass/Dirt information instead of the new texture information found in the Colour Texture and Poser Surface.

I tried deleting the "Grass/Dirt" window, but can't.

I tried connecting the Colour Texture node to the Grass/Dirt one and changing the settings to those showing in the Poser Surface window, but no texture shows on the dress when I do that.

I'm attaching a picture of the material room. Hope it works.

Can someone help me with this? I've never encountered anything like this before.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 7:16 AM

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I just tried another texture with the same results.  Here is a before and after render.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



nruddock ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 7:28 AM

The files can probably be fixed by hand editing, if you now what your doing, otherwise it would be simpler to get the creator to generate new files.

If this is a free item can you provide a link.


Irish ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 8:09 AM · edited Sun, 24 December 2006 at 8:13 AM

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I'm not sure why Grass Dirt is appearing - when I load the dress, I only have the default green colour.   I applied a free mat pose  and it applied correctly.

:)


nruddock ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 8:33 AM

Quote - I'm not sure why Grass Dirt is appearing ...

The Poser_Surface node has been renamed (by mistake I suspect).
It's being replaced by Poser with a new node with the correct name (this behaviour may be version dependent).


Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 8:35 AM

Quote - The files can probably be fixed by hand editing, if you now what your doing, otherwise it would be simpler to get the creator to generate new files.

If this is a free item can you provide a link.

The dress can be found here in the free monthly freebies.  You need to register, but it's free to join.

http://www.faerie-dreams.com/

Faery Wylde had a number of gifted textures during their Faery Solstice. Here is a link to the most recent one.

http://www.faeriewylde.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=23492

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 8:39 AM

Quote - I'm not sure why Grass Dirt is appearing - when I load the dress, I only have the default green colour.   I applied a free mat pose  and it applied correctly.

:)

Yes, the new MAT texture applies and looks ok in the Pose window. However when I render the image, the dress renders in the default green colour because when the new texture is applied, it's generating a "Poser Surface" window (the correct material room node thingy).  But when it's rendering, it's using the data from the "Grass/Dirt" window instead of the "Poser Surface" window with the texture.

And when I rehook the texture to the "Grass/Dirt" node window and change the settings in the dials, the texture doesn't show in the Pose Room Window.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



wenke ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:12 AM · edited Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:13 AM

Hi Acadia,

I have the same problem... and after a look in these MAT-Poses (Editor), I think its because they are Poser5 MATs, but they have no shader tree informations.


wenke ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:15 AM

O.k. if you have the MAT Pose Edit, just open each MAT-Pose and resave, then they work perfect.


Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:21 AM · edited Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:25 AM

God!  I've never been able to get anything through MAT POSE EDIT and have it work.  Can you post a mini tutorial on how to do that?

And it's not just one texture, it's all of the textures that I have downloaded for the Tink Dress that this is happening with.  So it's something with the dress and that "Grass/Dirt", or so it seems to me.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Irish ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:31 AM

Can you tell me which freebie mat poses these are Acadia and I'll give it a try?

Thanks.

:)


Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:35 AM

They were the ones given away during the 12 Solstice Days at Faery Wylde.  There is one texture in their 12th day, which you can get here:

http://www.faeriewylde.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=23492

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



wenke ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:38 AM

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O.k. 1. Open MAT Pose Edit


wenke ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:39 AM

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2. Now open the first MAT-Pose


wenke ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:39 AM

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...


wenke ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:39 AM

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3. just save the Pose now and open the next one


Irish ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 9:52 AM

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Thanks for the link - I downloaded and installed and had no problem with it.  I am using Poser 6.  My suggestion would be to delete tink dress and then install it again and see if that corrects your problem.

Hope you get it working - these are lovely textures for the dress!

And may I wish you a very Merry Christmas Acadia!!

:)


Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 10:36 AM

Quote - Thanks for the link - I downloaded and installed and had no problem with it.  I am using Poser 6.  My suggestion would be to delete tink dress and then install it again and see if that corrects your problem.

Hope you get it working - these are lovely textures for the dress!

And may I wish you a very Merry Christmas Acadia!!

:)

Did you render?  The texture looks perfectly fine in the Pose window. The problem is when you render.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 10:54 AM · edited Sun, 24 December 2006 at 10:55 AM

Wenke, I was trying to do something totally different than what you show in your screenshots.  I was loading the .cr2 file for the dress, and then browsing for the texture and clicking the "apply" buttons and then "save as" and overwriting the .pz2 file that was there.

When I applied the texture, the texture applied properly and showed properly in the pose window, however upon rendering the dress rendered in the default green still.

I'll try what you show... direct resaving, and see how I do with that. If this doesn't work, I'm done fussing with it.  I've been fiddling with this for over 6 hours now and am a hair away from uninstalling the dress and forgetting about it.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Irish ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 11:35 AM

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Here's the render Acadia...no problem.

:)


Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 11:36 AM

Yay for me!!!!!  I managed to follow Wenke's instructions and it actually worked!!!! Thank you so much!

I have a question.

Some of the texture packages also have textures for Thorne's Maple Winge. The wings seem to have 2 parts to them and when I open the .pz2 file in Mat Pose Edit, it shows "leaf" and "stem" in the window.

 How do you work with an item that has more than one part to it? 

Do I have to "save" the Leaf part  and then "save" again for the Stem part? Or do I just save "Leaf"?

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Francemi ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 11:39 AM

Acadia, here is a little gift for you...

Download this pose file (pz2):
http://francemi.net/cadeaux/TinkBlank.zip

Apply the pose to Tink Dress as soon as you load it in Poser. After that you have two choices: 1) you apply this blank pose each time you use Tink Dress or 2) you save Tink Dress back in the character library once the pose is applied... This is the best way since you won't have to bother with applying the blank pose before applying a texture of your choice after that.

France, Proud Owner of

KCTC Freebies  


Francemi ( ) posted Sun, 24 December 2006 at 12:04 PM

Ooops! I didn't see your message that you were able to solve your problem. Oh well, this pose might help someone else. ;o))

The fastest way to solve this kind of problem where you can't delete something in the material room is to load a primitive prop, select the first material that you see in material room, and save the material as a single material. Then you load the product you're having a problem with and apply that single material to it. Then you save it.

France, Proud Owner of

KCTC Freebies  


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