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Subject: V4 lip morphs - taking requests


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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 2:22 AM · edited Tue, 01 October 2024 at 6:25 AM

Taking requests for some freebie lip morphs offered as INJ poses for Victoria 4.  I don't promise these will change your life, but I think they'd be fairly simple to do and I don't think you can beat the price.  If anyone (estherau) has specific things they'd like, please try to give me a photo or other graphical reference of some kind.

Some possibilities:

The incomparable Milla Jovovich:
http://gallery.millanews.com/details.php?image_id=213

The mighty musclebound lips of Angelina Jolie (a bit intimidating in this image):
http://www.jurassicpunk.com/stars/angelinajolie/angelina_jolie_9.jpg
Ms. Jolie's lips continue to get more and more barroque.  I think they have their own wiki somewhere out there.

Some distinctive "bow" lips:
http://www.hqhair.com/images/pages/urbandecay-mainbodyimage.jpg

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 8:59 AM · edited Wed, 14 March 2007 at 9:00 AM

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A prototype.  The mesh.

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Darboshanski ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 9:01 AM

I think anything is great with exception of "pouty mouths".  I am not a fan of a character with lips and a mouth so small it looks like she needs to take her meals using a straw...LOL!!!  Actually, I like your three examples myself.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 9:22 AM

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A render with the V4 standard mats, Glamour makeup.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 9:42 AM

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Artsy Fartsy.  Please ignore the horrible materials cockup at the jawline, I've managed to seriously screw my materials because of mixing some various materials setting up.  It's got nothing to do with the morph itself.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:04 AM

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Repaired materials (actually moved the morph to a new clean figure)

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:07 AM

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Some expression...

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:23 AM

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A bit of Pucker and PartCenter...  I'm off to sleep, I suspect I'll be bothered by dreams of bee-stung lips taunting me, teasing me.

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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:26 AM

That is some wonderful work PJ :)

I don't know if this has been done already, but for the idea sake I'll toss it out there...
I was scrutinizing Jessica Simpson's face and build yesterday.
Fine tuning body geometry is still a tad beyond my...  skill and patience. Especially patience.
I have to admire those like you whom 'have it'  :)

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:30 AM

Show me a picture and I'll try to make a morph for it.  This isn't really that difficult, and I could bundle several morphs into one set of INJ/REM poses, for free.  This was pretty quick to do, about 30 minutes (it's a very simple morph after all) ... but Sleep -> Work for the next 20 hours or so.

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JQP ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 12:01 PM

Full lips are nice, but please don't neglect those thin lips!  Don't have any pictures or examples, sorry.


lululee ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 12:17 PM

Your morphs are outstanding. I am impressed.
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linkdink ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 9:13 PM

pjz99, lovely work!  Those are very nice lips indeed. The "repaired materials" shot is particularly attractive, very flattering to the morph.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 9:17 PM

This/these will be offered as a freebie to whoever wants them.  Any other interests or requests?  I think a "thin lips" look is pretty easy to achieve with the already-present morphs but if there is some special shape, help me visualize it and I'll try my hand at a morph. 

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EPICI ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 9:24 PM

Hi **pjz99

**Your morphs are great.

Anatonically the lower lip should have a volume double (more or less) than the upper.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 9:25 PM

Jessica Simpson seems to have had some rather heinous things done to her lips:
http://www.gossiprocks.com/forum/lip-augmentation/6198-jessica-simpsons-lips.html

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estherau ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:08 PM

Here I am in my very own lip thread. wow, that looks great. No, I mean supurb!!! It's close to what I asked for before. Do u need me to post those ones again at all? Will we be able to adjust parts of those morphs separately eg the sides of the lips the bulges on each side of the middle, and the top lip separately, because that would be very useful? Love esther

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estherau ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:14 PM

A more straight across the bottom part of the border of the lower lip like a male lip would also be cool. Love esther

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:17 PM

It's just another morph target, that affects only the mouth and the philtrum.  It ought to mix with any other face morph just fine, although if you mix with a specific face morph that heavily reshapes the mouth there might be some problems.  

At this time it's a single morph that affects the whole mouth, but it literally took me 30 minutes to do, so making separate morphs that do different things like exaggerate the left/right bulge on the lower lip shouldn't be very hard.  Either show me a picture with some notes that explains exactly what you want, or state it as explicitly as you possibly can in writing.  You could likely do this just as well on your own if you have P7, or practically any external modeling app, it really wasn't very hard.

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estherau ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:21 PM

Actually I have C4D but I'm a newbie and am just using it for rendering. I did hear though that as soon as you start adjusting a model in C4D that it rearranges the vertices and you can't get the bit to work as it was in poser anymore. I found the morphing brush a bit too clunky in poser 7 to do much. What you have done is absolutely amazing. I will send you some pics. Love esther

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:26 PM · edited Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:26 PM

If your modeling app is rearranging vertices then it is doing something very wrong.  As long as you stick to the Wavefront OBJ format it really ought to be pretty straightforward.  This was done with the P7 morph brush - did you know you can simply scale the whole figure up 500% or 1000%, make your morph target, scale back down to 100% when you are finished?  it makes zooming in very close a lot more comfortable.

Quote - A more straight across the bottom part of the border of the lower lip like a male lip would also be cool. Love esther

 

That's doable.  How about some kind of transition between smooth curve and a stylized sharper, angular shape?

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jjroland ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:27 PM

Yeah some thinner lips would be super.  Tried hard to make myself for fun and the lips were impossible - all poser models have apparently had extensive lip injections....


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estherau ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:29 PM · edited Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:30 PM

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these are all the separate part s which would be good to have as separately morphable if possible. The divit bit is pointing at the top lip. Love esther

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 10:33 PM

jjroland could you give me a photo example or something like that to help me understand what you'd like?  

Esther I'm pretty sure I can make separate morphs for each of those things.I'll mess with it when I get off work again (around 9 hours).

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estherau ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 11:33 PM

oooh thanks!! And the combined one I still want to have too though. Love esther

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 14 March 2007 at 11:34 PM

Since that one is already done, nothing lost, no problem!

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 5:04 AM

It occurs to me that I've been wanting a forked tongue morph for quite some time now (since V4 was released), so I'll work on that as well and throw it into this selection of freebies.  That'll probably be the most difficult one by a long shot.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 10:19 AM

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Where were we.  Here's our default lips mesh, zero morphs.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 10:20 AM

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Rendered with DAZ high-rez mats and Glamour makeup.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 10:34 AM

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LipBottomValley at 1 mesh.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 10:35 AM

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LipBottomValley rendered at 1 on the slider (full morph).  Note this is almost certainly more exaggerated than you would like, but this leaves you room to move the slider where you like it.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 10:39 AM

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LipBottomValley at .5 on the slider (half morph).

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 10:49 AM

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LipBottomBulge mesh.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 10:51 AM

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LipBottomBulge at rendered at 1 (full morph).

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 10:54 AM · edited Thu, 15 March 2007 at 10:55 AM

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LipBottomBulge at one half.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:11 AM

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LipTopHangeyDowney (sorry :blushing: ) mesh.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:14 AM

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LipTopHangeyDowney rendered at 1 on the slider.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:18 AM

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LipTopHangeyDowney at half with more aggressive contrast lighting (it's kind of a subtle morph, I don't want to make it look deformed/cleft palate).

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:29 AM

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Reloaded each of the morphs onto a fresh V4 and mixed together...

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:29 AM

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Slider settings for same.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:31 AM

Lip Girl is looking a mite pissy so I'm going to give her the rest of the night off.  I'll pick these up again after I get some sleep.  Comments and suggestions welcome.

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LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 1:16 PM

Please let's not see any Jessica Simpson plastic Surgery lips! Janice Dickinson is another pair of ruined lips these days thanks to plastic butchery! Has anyone seen her new modeling show on cable? Yikes! These morphs look great PJ, Keep up the good work. Will these be for sale?


Coleman ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 2:47 PM

Great work!

V4 is needing more lip morphs (as well as a ton of other morphs)

These look great.


pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 5:40 PM

These will be offered free, at the very least from here at Rendo, and maybe other places where appropriate (DAZ Freepository perhaps).

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estherau ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 6:02 PM

That looks like the shot! Good work. Love esther

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:04 PM

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Back to the salt mines ... LipBottomTrapezoid mesh.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:07 PM

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Rendered at 1 on the slider.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:11 PM

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LipBottomTrapezoid rendered at one half.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:17 PM

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I think the lip morphs are pretty much done.  Just about everything else I can think of that you'd reasonably want can be got with the built in sliders.  A mix of settings...

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:17 PM

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Settings...

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estherau ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:31 PM

woo hoo. It will be good to see all the new characters that V4 can be. I hope she is happy with them. Love esther

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