Hi Dogor

I hope your computer is back up to snuff. 

Hi Everyone

As for the Daz Studio vs Poser,  I received an e mail this morning.  In it the individual asked " Who the **** do you think you are"  and after about a paragraph or so stated "  I didn't belong here and that I should leave."  Mind you it wasn't site specific nor about the Studio vs Poser issue,  it was about the community in general.  So,  that being said,  I'm leaving.  I wish everyone good luck and good renders.  If anyone would like to stay in touch or beta test the Plain Folk figures my email address is patorak3d@yahoo.com 

Please don't let this issue between Studio and Poser turn into a war like the Maya vs Max war.  that one was really ugly.  See, when It comes down to it art is an expression of emotion.  The only tool you really need is a soul.

Pat

Quote - Hi Dogor

I hope your computer is back up to snuff. 

Hi Everyone

As for the Daz Studio vs Poser,  I received an e mail this morning.  In it the individual asked " Who the **** do you think you are"  and after about a paragraph or so stated "  I didn't belong here and that I should leave."  Mind you it wasn't site specific nor about the Studio vs Poser issue,  it was about the community in general.  So,  that being said,  I'm leaving.  I wish everyone good luck and good renders.  If anyone would like to stay in touch or beta test the Plain Folk figures my email address is patorak3d@yahoo.com 

Please don't let this issue between Studio and Poser turn into a war like the Maya vs Max war.  that one was really ugly.  See, when It comes down to it art is an expression of emotion.  The only tool you really need is a soul.

Pat

What in the world........?!!!!

Pat, please don't allow one jerk with a hotmail account (assuming that they use hotmail) to drive you away.  You are an asset to this community, and you most definitely belong here.  Whether you happen to favor Poser or D|S is incidental.

Plus there's the fact that you're a nice guy -- why would someone have taken out after you that way?  Odd.  Very odd.  I'd be interested in knowing who did this -- but I assume that the e-mail was anonymous, as such e-mails generally are.

Please stick around, my friend.  The water's warm -- or hot. 

I hope you stick around patorak. We have these debates from time to time. It's kind of a potato vs potato matching contest and (to me anyways) a lot of interesting facts and ideas and even personal opinions and observations come out of it.

My computer is up to snuff. I'm not sure it ever wasn't. Spyware programs are constantly updated and sometimes they flag things and make us aware of "possible" dangers. Not really a positive "eminent" danger. I just deleted the files as any uninstall files aren't important to me anyways. 

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As for the Daz Studio vs Poser,  I received an e mail this morning.  In it the individual asked " Who the **** do you think you are"  and after about a paragraph or so stated "  I didn't belong here and that I should leave."  Mind you it wasn't site specific nor about the Studio vs Poser issue,  it was about the community in general.  So,  that being said,  I'm leaving. 

Meh - I usually respond to those with a reply that would make a mule driver shiver in his sleep. But then again, I'm evil like that.

Non Illegitimi Carborundum Est, 'mano. The day some non-PTB jackass gets any power to decide who should and should not leave a given forum, is the day I'd write that forum off as lost and dead...

/P

Yeah Pat, I wish you would stay around too. You're a good guy and an asset.

A war? No, just good conversation. I don't think anyone has gone balistic.

Quote - As for the Daz Studio vs Poser,  I received an e mail this morning.  In it the individual asked " Who the **** do you think you are"  and after about a paragraph or so stated "  I didn't belong here and that I should leave."  Mind you it wasn't site specific nor about the Studio vs Poser issue,  it was about the community in general.  So,  that being said,  I'm leaving.  I wish everyone good luck and good renders. 

Pat

You know, I swore I was done posting in here since I'd made my statements and didn't feel like I had anything more to add to the conversation.. but...

Duuuuuuuuuude. Stop for a second. Think. Consider the source of said email. One lonely nutjob should not be enough to chase ANYONE off from something like this. Seriously. Just consider the source... sheeeeeeeeeeesh, they ought to be glad they didn't send that email at me. I tend to fire right back with double barrels when someone sends off a nasty mail like that. Or else I just let it go ignored and not give them the satisfaction of thinking they got under my skin.

That kind of act is immature and is HARDLY representative of the entirety of the folks who post here and read here. I don't know you at all, but from what little I've seen of you in this thread, I see absolutely NO reason that you ought to just take your toys and go home just because one schoolyard bully is having a temper tantrum. That makes no sense to me. LOL

~ Seliah

2/20/08

Pat:

There is a life outside of Poser, Daz Studio, Carrara, and other graphics programs. It sounds like some one needs to reintegrate with reality, but not you. There are always a few self appointed forum moderators who want to impose their values on others. It must have been disturbing to get private EMail as you did. I would think the perpetrator knew the people on this thread and forum would never sanction such behaviour in public. I hope you will not be intimidated. Clearly the people here value your input and opinions.

LMK

I like Bryce 6. I think it's very useful and fairly simple to use. Now that I can use Daz Studio to put the Poser models into Bryce it made it that much more appealing. Different renderers have a different look to them. I like the look of Bryce renders.

Patorak, there is absolutely no need for you to go anywhere. Your thoughts, opinions, and choice of software is just as valid as anyone elses, so just keep your tailfeathers right here.

Also, this is a great discussion about the pros and cons of both software programs {and others}, I like discussions like this..very informative. ;)

Kudos to you all gang for keeping it this way! :thumbupboth:

I think the reason for shifts between Poser and DAZ|Studio has a lot to with increased familiarity with 3D applications.  When I started using Poser, there seemed to be a large learning curve in using the software's applications.  Now, people are coming into the community and picking up skills rather quickly.  I think a lot of this is due to the fact that the tools are much more advanced and the content is much more developed.  The relationship between the development of the software and the development and complexity of the supporting content is becoming more and more interlinked.

Over the past year, I've become a little disenfranchised with Poser.  Having Poser passed from one company to another makes future development rather questionable.  Poser is certainly superior to the others in terms of materials, but in terms of computer resources, I think there is significant room for improvement.

Further, I question the development of the "default" Poser figures.  With each new version of Poser, the figures have been renamed.  This practice doesn't necessarily establish a successful brand and maintain interest for the figures.  The G2 figures should have been combined into only 1 male and 1 female with more morphing options and better attention to the mesh.  The supporting content provided by Sixus1 and RuntimeDNA has been better than the actual figures.  In truth, I think Sixus1 and RuntimeDNA have given Poser more of a pulse that it's owner company.

Personally, I think a lot of DAZ's success is due to the fact they've established a stable brand.  The company has retained the same name.  Further, each subsequent generation of Michael and Victoria have become increasingly more developed.  Offering DAZ|Studio for free has been a great means of further advancing the development of the program.  I hope that eventually nosed-based materials are added - at that point, my usage of Poser might lessen even more.

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Sorry. Made me chuckle.

sorry...node-based... that pesky "s" is too close to the "d" key

2/22/08

*"Quote - 'nosed-based materials' -Sorry. Made me chuckle."

Most of the nose based materials we get in the office during Flu season should not be reproduced in the material room, and you most certainly don't want to encounter them on your keyboard.

"sorry...node-based... that pesky 's' is too close to the 'd' key"

I know, sometimes my fangles get so tingered I can't stype traight.

LMK

Quote - Hi Dogor

I hope your computer is back up to snuff. 

Hi Everyone

As for the Daz Studio vs Poser,  I received an e mail this morning.  In it the individual asked " Who the **** do you think you are"  and after about a paragraph or so stated "  I didn't belong here and that I should leave."  Mind you it wasn't site specific nor about the Studio vs Poser issue,  it was about the community in general.  So,  that being said,  I'm leaving.  I wish everyone good luck and good renders.  If anyone would like to stay in touch or beta test the Plain Folk figures my email address is patorak3d@yahoo.com 

Please don't let this issue between Studio and Poser turn into a war like the Maya vs Max war.  that one was really ugly.  See, when It comes down to it art is an expression of emotion.  The only tool you really need is a soul.

Pat

WTF!
Whomever is the creep that sent that kind of a message is the one that doesn't belong in here!!!
Don't you dare leave us, you're part of 'us' here!!!!!

Don't let this turn into a war, or George Bush will want to check ALL the forums for weapons of mass destruction, LOL!

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Sorry. Made me chuckle.

Gee and I thought nosed based materials was something that came standard in all poser characters so the inside of their noses glowed after rendered in Poser with stock lights and cameras vs D/S. Sort of like a Poser feature of some kind or another.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - nosed-based materials

Sorry. Made me chuckle.

Gee and I thought nosed based materials was something that came standard in all poser characters so the inside of their noses glowed after rendered in Poser with stock lights and cameras vs D/S. Sort of like a Poser feature of some kind or another.

Radioactive brains......that's what makes their nostrils glow.

Well, I woke up this morning with my face in one of my cats' fur coats. He was sleeping on my head. I definately had nose-based materials after breathing fur all night, LOL!